givesomefucks @ givesomefucks @lemmy.world

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You’re arguing about word choices and message

Because that effects how people think and treat others...

This isn't just my opinion, this has been studied extensively, not just for word choice within one language but how different languages cause people to think differently.

I thought you just weren't aware, but I provided a couple sources and you're getting angry and still wanting to aide with the fascists on the right...

That kind of only leaves one reason for why you're still denying science...

So something like “begging person” or “beggarly person”?

Why are you so insistent to use "beg"?

"Someone asking for donations" maintains their dignity and communicates the point clearly...

Personally, if you called me a German, a furry or a vegetarian, I wouldn’t mind, even though none of these attributes encompass my entire existence.

Ok...

But we don't call people what we would like to be called, we don't set the minimum of respect for everyone else

If didn't have a home, job, or food, you might be less willing to be dehumanized.

The privileged are usually the least sensitive to that.

Like, I'm 6'4", if someone that's 6'6" walked up and said "Hey shorty, what's up". I won't give a single fuck.

If I was a 5'2" man, I might be offended, and if I said a 5'2 man had to be ok with it because I was, I'd be a jackass.

That's literally preschool level empathy, and it's depressing so many people here never learned that

So...

Not only do you view dehumanizing language as "no big deal" you're actively choosing to spend your free time online to argue with people about how we shouldn't put any effort into it.

Like...

Are you just ignorant on how language changes thinking? Or do you understand how serious this is and just deciding to side with the fascists on this (and probably other) topics?

https://news.umich.edu/word-choice-hidden-meanings-can-influence-our-judgment/

https://studyfinds.org/language-influences-reality/

Like. This should be "common sense" but there's been studies on it for decades.

Do you really not understand how word choices effect a message?

A direct link to social media would still be against the rules for this community...

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We're fighting fascism buddy...

If someone saying it's better to use adjectives than nouns is enough for you to want to meet in the middle with fascists, it sounds to me you were looking for an excuse to tell people to get closer to fascism

If it's essential...

Why are we letting a private corporation who only cares about increasing profit margin in the next quarter?

Shouldn't that be a nationalized industry so we can plan what's best for the country long term?

Why are we privatizing something so necessary?

You're not supposed to follow logic to it's rational end!!!!

If we did that, capitalism wouldn't still be happening!

It's insane how many people keep posting screenshots of social media

Go on… what is the newer term?

Using adjectives to describe an aspect of a person instead of a noun to reduce them to a single aspect....

Use adjectives to describe people, not nouns to label them...

Super basic, and applies to almost ever scenario.

It's about not reducing someone to one attribute, and it's been around for like a decade at least in western society.

Anyone got any thoughts about this?

Calling them "beggers" is shitty and outdated...

And with you saying the people who help others only do it for religious reasons...

It makes me think you should be saying what geographic area you're in when asking these questions, because it just doesn't sound like any western country.

All this stuff might be normal where you're from, but not where most Lemmy users are.

Or maybe there's another reason you keep using terms that are outdated in Europe/Canada/America?

What?

Ignoring posture is not a good plan long term.

Do whatever you want, but you're going to regret it for decades. If you get upset people are trying to help you, acting like this will get them to stop trying. But that isn't a good result for you

So when two years ago, the steel mill successfully trialed a hydrogen gas-powered blast furnace, the first time the fuel had been deployed in this fashion anywhere in the Americas, she was delighted. It cost an estimated $1.6bn, and the Biden administration, through the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA), coughed up $500m to help cover the cost of installing the technology.

Dems giving billions of dollars to corporations hoping $20 trickles down is fucking stupid.

It never makes it to the people, so the people don't feel like they're being helped, and a Republican wins elections.

Dems need to help Americans directly, then the people will vote for them. If a corporation dies, so the fuck what? They're trying to have as few employees as possible and to pay them as little as possible. It's not a secret. That's literally what capitalism means.

but it seems you’re saying false negatives are a greater concern.

Someone with a bad BMI but healthy will get further testing and told they're healthy...

Someone with a "good BMI" because they have bird bones and no muscle, just fat, will never have further testing done and always insist BMI is all that matters. You can see it anytime BMI comes up, people ignore all evidence that say they may need to look deeper than that single number.

Consider life in the 1830s to now, it would have been impossible for even the wealthiest to avoid exercise and consume as many calories as the average modern human. Shit just isn't comparable.

There's no logical reason to keep using it

What?

How would voting I be voting blue?

Why are people up voting that? It makes zero sense...

Yep, two shit bag neoliberals running I and an actual Republican.

This is both good for Mamdani and what will be used as an excuse when he wins.

Nope.

Because lots of obese people have healthy bmi's

They're usually the ones blowing badly defending it and haven't had blood work done in a decade. They have no idea how unhealthy they are

BMI does work very well in diagnostics and statistical models

It does not ...

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bmi-sidelined-in-new-obesity-definition-that-favors-health-evaluation/

It barely worked when it was created and doesn't really mean shit now.

It's gives loads of people a false sense of security and then they latch onto it and just keep insisting it's fine even in the face of multiple sources that show the scientific community thinks its shit.

I guess if people needed an example of that, your comment did serve a purpose.

I've known multiple people who lost federal security clearances for not filing their taxes for an extended period because they didn't owe anything.

But as far as I know they've never been fined or had charges pressed.

Very niche concern, but I don't 100% know all the scenarios, so it's best for people to find out for themselves about their own specific situation

To study this, Anderson and her team looked at the most recent self-reported body mass index (BMI) data from 746,250 Canadians who were 18 years or older between 2009 and 2023.

Maybe because BMI was never intended to be an indicator of health and is just a simple and dirty math formula invented by a Belgian astronomer 200 years ago?

https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/news/publications/health-matters/is-bmi-accurate

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-02/the-problem-with-the-body-mass-index-bmi/100728416

BMI is just weight and height, a pound of muscle, a pound of fat, a pound of bone...

Doesn't matter, a pound is a pound.

I failed BMI everytime I got measured in the military, they had to "rope and choke" which is a more time consuming method where waist/neck measurements were used. If I had still failed that, I'd have been given a buoyancy test as well for an even more accurate tests.

But it's hard to call someone obese after you just measured the circumference of their abs...

When used as an average of a population BMI isbetter but it was made based on what weights were considered healthy for a white man 200 years ago, way before protein and weight training. And when the average person was like 5'6.

Lots of clearly healthy white men are labeled obese because of that. And no one else was even involved in coming up with the system, so they've always been getting wrong results.

It's fucking insane we're still using this ancient flawed method when we have so many better ways. Especially since the largest determiner of height back then was access to enough calories when young. Pretty much everyone is getting that now. And reaching their max height which is where BMI has always been the most flawed.

Like, obesity is an undeniable problem. But BMI is the least scientific metric we could be using short of some bullshit like astrology signs. The obesity epidemic too serious to fuck around like this