fukhueson @ fukhueson @lemmy.world

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Has Israel stated they would not let refugees leave? Say Egypt unilaterally opens the Rafah crossing, Israel would stop them from leaving?

Dude, read who wrote that comment

That's another user...

Edit: and who said I was specifying the Iranian military?

Rewrote the above comment, my mistake for misinterpreting. I'm still waiting for you to quote me saying you're defending Hamas.

Deleted, I misread the comment. Source saying that Israel controls whether they stay or leave?

Please quote where I said you defended Hamas. (Hint: I didn't)

Hmm, I feel that divorcing Iran's proxies from Iran is more disingenuous (and I'm not lying about their relation). It's also not refuting the content of the posts, which again, clearly illustrate my point. Sorry, and thanks for the discussion!

The first is a middle east monitor article. And Hamas/Hezbollah=Iran. Also, entirely missing the point, my points are very clearly illustrated here.

A point no one contested, they're simply forcing them to stay there.

Only if you don't consider Hamas as a proxy of Iran. I'm objectively being honest.

Agree, Palestinians deserve better than Hamas.

Thank you for verifying again that I never said these things, and that your accusations are unfounded.

I see that you cannot quote me, thank you for verifying this.

Doesn't sound like exactly what you said, but I'll play along in whatever way you're interpreting this. Hamas/Hezbollah/Iran's statements and those made against Israel are typically taken at face value, and those who take issue are largely downvoted. Comments made by Israel or against Hamas/Hezbollah/Iran are met with nearly polar opposite reactions. Related, there seems to be a tendency to downplay criticism of Hamas/Hezbollah/Iran with unsourced opinions and whataboutisms (particularly users attempting to frame others as supporters of genocide). Users downplay or are even willing to lie about what was said in order to garner sympathy for Iran and criticize Israel or the IDF (even when the reporting is corroborated by other reliable sources). Even comments attempting to claim both parties involved are bad are downvoted (for example, most discussions regarding human shields). Articles critical of Hamas/Hezbollah/Iran are outright called propaganda. A short list to demonstrate my points:

https://lemmy.world/post/19299022 https://lemmy.world/post/19313271 https://lemmy.world/post/19579887 https://lemmy.world/post/20433553 https://lemmy.world/post/19538958 https://lemmy.world/post/19045416 https://lemmy.world/post/20395037 https://lemmy.world/post/20436042 https://lemmy.world/post/20402034 https://lemmy.world/post/20424484 https://lemmy.world/post/14259280 https://lemmy.world/post/20264445 https://lemmy.world/post/20794663 https://lemmy.world/post/20777227 https://lemmy.world/post/20751891 https://lemmy.world/post/20641184 https://lemmy.world/post/19917528 https://lemmy.world/post/19873607 https://lemmy.world/post/19110824 https://lemmy.world/post/18816697 https://lemmy.world/post/18738671 https://lemmy.world/post/18725793 https://lemmy.world/post/17620671

There's more but I have actual work to do.

So take "no problem" however you want, my points stand in a variety of interpretations. Going through my comment history also illuminates much of what I have a problem with here, that being critical of Hamas/Hezbollah/Iran is met with accusations of supporting genocide (if it weren't for the fact that this is considered uncivil and the comments get removed, I could source those, but check the mod logs if you don't believe me). I also take issue with the Middle East Monitor, New Arab, and Al Jazeera being paraded around as though they're legitimate news sources, while highly reliable Israeli publications are questioned, which objectively supports my points too.

Edit: I'll also cite this post too in the list :) who wants to bet there's some small detail that would disqualify these posts as they pertain to my assessment? Despite all these things being quotable throughout the list?

With no problem, right? I mean, ymmv depending on the user...

I said that?

Edit: I'm getting tired of people accusing me of saying things I didn't. Noticing a pattern...

I'm confused, could you find a quote by me that is relevant to your statement? Very unclear where this accusation is coming from.

I'm starting to understand what you meant by personal bias and preconceived conclusions...

I've said nothing close to what you're claiming.

If you say so. Mbfc doesn't seem to have a problem with the source.

I treat their statements the same as I've seen this community treat statements from Iran. No problem right?