floppade [he/him] @ floppade @lemm.ee

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In addition to taking advantage of automated systems, yes many groups are engaging in pressure campaigns on specific companies and organizations to engage in censorship right now.

If you’re not going to use the term in a colloquial context while you are in a colloquial setting, then you need to cite what source you are referencing for your definition. Given that you are talking about laws, then you need to recognize that every place defines things differently according to the law. So which law, where?

Being unnecessarily argumentative and snobby while at the same time not meeting your own standards is ridiculous.

It’s pretty clear that the people who have this take, regardless of party or political affiliation, don’t care. If they did care, they would listen. People who care don’t make threats. They listen.

Go check it out. They track democracies from all over the world. It is not partisan. They do not take pundits. They track policies and statements from the officials themselves. If you do not like actual sources, then I don’t know what to tell you. American candidates for the presidency have largely been on the authoritarian right for a decade. Candidates from both parties end up very close to each other on the chart.

The funniest thing about this comment is that it could be easily directed at you as well.

If you check out the research work done by the political compass, you see it’s actually a one party system wearing a two party outfit.

Letting Democrats take advantage of your vote and not listen to you over and over again it’s not a good strategy either. They don’t actually stop any of the things they used to fearmonger people with. They just wait so that they can use them as a threat again in the next election cycle. That’s an abusive relationship.

A lot of people feel justified in not actually listening to others and judging them from afar as what is happening. They feel justified in doing this for very specific reasons.

Who are the exact same people that you claim to be citing? I see the exact same people discussing all of these issues. The only thing you’re doing is discouraging them from talking about it if they’re not talking about it all at once which no one does on any subject.

This is an unoriginal take used to silence people who did not know about things like this before. Our media intentionally hides information about things like this. Our schools intentionally hide things like this. You can’t care about something if you don’t know it’s happening.

I worked for that campaign during that election cycle. You would think that the DNC and coordinated campaigns would learn that not listening to voters hurts you. Shaming them didn’t work last time either. They didn’t fund outreach. They didn’t listen to organizers on the ground. They didn’t care.

They’re all paying for it enthusiastically. I don’t care if some posture differently personally.

Thank you. You said this much more nicely than I could.

Please go look up the political compass. Both parties are fascist.

Or you could actually hear them out rather than discredit them. Biden is killing their families in mass right now. You want them to think about how Trump might hurt them later? Which is actually happening now? Does making Biden think he will win encourage him to stop participating in the war crimes that he’s being referred to the ICC for?

If you’re one election cycle away from collapse, you’re already dead.

It’s not a Trump campaign. It’s a DNC better pick someone else or they’re fucked campaign. And that’s true frankly regardless of my personal opinion. The dude has sacrificed too many communities to make republicans happy and now the warmongering. He destroyed his own campaign.

They responded to this unoriginal take in TV interviews a while ago.

Interesting. There was a social media campaign going around to exit bank recently. I don’t know and won’t assert connection, but it makes me curious.

It seems likely to me that there are campaigns of people mass reporting content and apps to get then taken down even if it’s just temporarily. Sure, in some cases, like TikTok, they are meeting with rich Zionists who are lobbying for censor anything anti-Zionist. That takes time to negotiate in some cases I would imagine.

Most people and most Zionists are not rich I think. It’d be faster to run a coordinated mass report campaign through some influencer to trigger the automated moderation.

So even if Google weren’t financially involved in Israel’s occupation, which it is, people could use the mechanisms of its automations to censor things on their own for everyone.