I’ve been using airbnb for month-long rentals across Europe and I still haven’t found a good alternative.
There are no hotels that offer even remotely similar apartment size/price ratios. And I prefer apartments specifically, living in a hotel for a long time is just weird. All my airbnb hosts for the last two years have also been great. Btw, all were actual apartment owners, so none of that corporate crap. Many were helpful showing interesting places or best restaurants/shops around the neighbourhood.
On the other hand, local rental services and websites either have listings that start at 3+ months, or are completely unreliable, either taking weeks to reply or changing their mind on price or availability a few days before the arrival date.
And airbnb in Europe had that checkbox to display the final price since forever, so you’re not getting unknowingly ripped off anyway.
Is there something usable besides airbnb for 1–1.5 month long rentals across EU? At this point I’m not sure if it’s even a good idea to look for one.
It’s probably a measure for persistent temperature then. Like, if you lock someone in a room at that temperature (or if it wouldn’t cool down at night, for example), then that person would be dead no matter what after some amount of hours or days.
35 is more of a real-life guideline, since it does cool down at night and you don’t need to withstand this temperature persistently and indefinitely.
And for the last several years there have been lots of places that exceeded 31.5 WBT during the day. Hell, you can probably find several places with that WBT right now. But since people don’t drop dead immediately and need time to heat up, it’s still survivable.
Think about it in terms of a 2D graph. You need to know the duration in addition to temperature to gauge survivability. A million degrees is survivable for a femtosecond, 35 for an average earth day, and 31 indefinitely.
Wet bulb temperature is basically converting to 100% humidity equivalent, so as you get closer to 100%, WBT approaches measured temperature. We use this metric because our bodies cool mostly via evaporation, and no evaporation is possible at 100% — the air is already fully saturated. So in general, WBT means minimum possible temperature that can be reached by evaporative cooling. Once your body loses the ability to cool, it rushes to match surrounding wet bulb temperature (or even exceed it, since we produce about 100W of heat energy by simply existing).
So 52C at 90% is about 50C WBT. Survivable for mere minutes for some, and probably for about an hour or so for most humans. Definitely not survivable for a full day.
It’s a bit different depending on your health and all that. But 35 WBT is a definite point for everyone (since our bodies run at 36–37C). Kinda like the difference between “some will die” and “most will die”.
Reposting my comment from another similar thread ‘cause I think it’s kind of important to add.
Ok, so it doesn’t mention wet bulb temperature anywhere, so I went to figure it out. The first thing I was surprised with is apparently most of online calculators don’t take in values higher than 50C.
I couldn’t find the exact data about humidity for that day, but it has been 35-40%+ at a minimum for most days in that region, sometimes even reaching 90%.
So, 52C at around 40% humidity is 37.5C in wet bulb temp. The point of survivability is around 35, and most humans should be able to withstand 37.5 for several hours, but it’s much worse for sick or elderly. 39 is often a death sentence even for healthy humans after just two hours — your body can no longer lose heat and you bake from the inside. That’s like having an unstoppable runaway fever. And with that humidity it’s reached at 54C.
Temperature reports like this always use in-the-shade measurements. You can get much higher temps when measuring in direct sunlight, like easily 100C+, depending on the material of your measuring device.
Ok, so it doesn’t mention wet bulb temperature anywhere, so I went to figure it out. The first thing I was surprised with is apparently most of online calculators don’t take in values higher than 50C.
I couldn’t find the exact data about humidity for that day, but it has been 35-40%+ at a minimum for most days in that region, sometimes even reaching 90%.
So, 52C at around 40% humidity is 37.5C in wet bulb temp. The point of survivability is around 35, and most humans should be able to withstand 37.5 for several hours, but it’s much worse for sick or elderly. 39 is often a death sentence even for healthy humans after just two hours — your body can no longer lose heat and you bake from the inside. That’s like having an unstoppable runaway fever. And with that humidity it’s reached at 54C.
That looks really interesting, thanks.
Can you share how privacy-related issues are addressed, since it runs decentralized on lots of different machines? What kinds of requests are shared between users?
I know it might sound odd, but you shouldn’t be afraid to swim in Korea. The water isn’t going to get poisoned or become radioactive, it’s diluted so much that there’s not going to be a measurable difference in water quality. What they are doing is standard procedure, and it’s exactly the way you get rid of such water. It’s safe.
Hm. Now I’m trying to think of an accent it doesn’t work in. Something like Baltimore or some variation of cockney? Rural Australian? Idk, it seems to work pretty much fine in all that I can think of.
I’ve been using airbnb for month-long rentals across Europe and I still haven’t found a good alternative.
There are no hotels that offer even remotely similar apartment size/price ratios. And I prefer apartments specifically, living in a hotel for a long time is just weird. All my airbnb hosts for the last two years have also been great. Btw, all were actual apartment owners, so none of that corporate crap. Many were helpful showing interesting places or best restaurants/shops around the neighbourhood.
On the other hand, local rental services and websites either have listings that start at 3+ months, or are completely unreliable, either taking weeks to reply or changing their mind on price or availability a few days before the arrival date.
And airbnb in Europe had that checkbox to display the final price since forever, so you’re not getting unknowingly ripped off anyway.
Is there something usable besides airbnb for 1–1.5 month long rentals across EU? At this point I’m not sure if it’s even a good idea to look for one.