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I see a complete mixed bag of support and criticism browsing any news on the topic. If you only see support for Israel have you considered its because you keep engaging with it and the algorithms think you want to see more? Regardless this is probably getting more news coverage despite the imbalance of victim counts because news agencies can actually speak to the families involved and share their stories. They can't just pop over to Palestine to talk to the murdered peoples families without greater risk to themselves.

You're just being overdramatic. My comment never mentions Palestine or Palestinians explicitly and to be clear I was referring to hamas, the terrorists, that hide behind Palestinian civilians.

Peace? There's no global war but that's less because of the US and more because of the UN. But there's still conflict all over the place and many timeses because the US stuck its nose in something that was none of its business, f*cked shit up and then ran away leaving everyone else to deal with the fallout.

"I'm wrong but I'm proudly wrong so accept my authority"

What do you think the hostages they took were for? Aside from later rape after they were tired from all the initial raping and pillaging.

I think it's worth continuing because it puts pressure on these governments to decry the events. Its real easy for a government to stay quiet on these issues when it's foreign citizens killing other foreign citizens. Its much harder when your own countries people are killed and your just pretending nothing happened or trying to avoid discussing it.

I'm a little uninformed on the topic but what's stopping Egypt from taking over the territory? Millions of refugees clearly is a hard prospect but tonnes of land, lots of new citizens to live on it, a wealthy neighbor in Israel, and I have to imagine Israel would be more receptive to Egypt than hamas.

Because its a terrorist state and under periodic attack by a neighboring fascist state. Putting aside who has the right to be there, everyone's quality of life in Palestine is gonna be in the sh*tter so long as there are ongoing hostilities and that's not gonna stop until hamas is willing to cooperate or is forcefully removed. The only resolution that doesn't just aggravate the powderkeg is Palestinians being evacuated to countries where they can build better lives. They can't acclimate to Israel, can't be at peace with Israel so long as hamas leads them and let's face it Israel will always be an asshole to them because their in a feedback loop of increasing aggression.

Switzerland seems pretty chill.

What are you talking about. Kasshogi was murdered in 2018, trump took the office in 2017. He was very much in charge and in a position to do something or decry the act but he did absolutely nothing. And Biden has been detangling the mess trump left.

Was raping them and recording it also to keep Israel at bay?

I won't deny my original thought on hearing this was who would be reckless enough to have a festival in this powderkeg of a region but reading this makes me hate myself for that. These are innocent folks trying to enjoy themselves in what is the most disheartening places in the world and its ridiculous to somehow blame them for what happened and what they've gone through.

One could say just fight against those doing the oppression then. Its not just cowardly to hunt and kill innocent civilians, it's inhumane. The same point goes to both sides. Israelis killing hamas terrorists is a-OK from me. Collateral damage not so. Hamas terrorists killing innocent civilians is just as bad. This isn't even collateral damage, they intentionally sought them out to send a message.

Pretty much the only unbiased take anyone can have. Both sides f*cking suck. I disagree that this is the turning point tho. We've been here before and we'll stay here until both sides come to the table and actually discuss a peaceful resolution to the conflict. It'll never happen with hamas so they have to go. It'll never happen with the current Israeli government so they need to be replaced with more diplomatic leaders. Neither is gonna happen tho, the continued conflict just puts more dependence on the bad actors that keep escalating it. Honestly I see hamas cracking before Israel softens but who knows if or when that'll happen. I wouldn't be surprised if this conflict continued far beyond my lifetime.

Pretty much the only reason I use brave. 99% of the time librewolf. I don't wanna go through the effort of installing chromium and an ad blocker and all that other stuff for the 1% of sites that are broken on firefox for me so brave it is. Really I just wish there was a chrome repackage with all this stuff out of the box. God knows chrome and chromium will never be that.

What a convenient and easy answer in defence of their actions. "It was just out of their hands".

I mean this attack very openly and clearly targeted German nationals. Its not odd for a government to oppose another government (if you can call hamas that) when they just up and kill and mutilate your citizens with impunity. Of course governments should also care about other people's being killed but frankly they can't for the most part because their interests always align with what's best for their own people and close diplomatic ties is better than aggression. You kill their people, well no amount of grandstanding will save you.

Objectively I have a tendency to side with Israel. Their a few steps short of a fascist dictatorship but their not a literal terrorist organisation pretending to be a peoples government so theirs that.

I do, but I question the point. Anyone that wanted to get into my phone would probably already be monitoring me and honestly I'm not that cautious of entering my pattern/password when (for example) travelling on the bus.

1. Taking hostages for protection from running down and killing a bunch of civilians isn't a defence. It's literally what every bad person in any story does.
2. If the intention is purely to use them for defence you don't have to treat them like garbage and shame them publicly.

They did this to continue the horror of what they already did, it was a power play not a smart play.