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Then it uses those legal keys to decrypt the ROMs by the exact normal method that the Switch itself uses

this is the part where they circumvent the copyright protection, even if you do it "the same way" it's still not authorized, the DMCA is fairly broad about this stuff, one of the reasons it's so bad

Five people out of hundreds will yes.

This is layoffs.

They’re using the DMCA to say that because Yuzu lets someone circumvent their encryption (which is illegal, but shouldn’t be),

Yes. That's what I'm saying. That's what I said.

Not claiming it does. It seems like it might have the tooling to break copyright enforcement if you give it the right keys is the problem.

Nintendo is blaming Yuzu for actions of the general consumer

If you read the dmca, that's something you can do. Making tools that enable others to break copyright protection is specifically disallowed. Which is why it's one of the more insidious copyright laws

From their own guide

yuzu starts with the error "Missing Derivation Components"

yuzu requires console keys to play your games. Please follow our Quickstart Guide to dump these keys and system files from your Nintendo Switch.

Their guide also talks about dumping games from your console so I'm not sure how far it goes, but if they want console keys they are likely decrypting something

That's not really enough to be not in violation. For example, vlc can't natively decrypt blurays. This is because both its not bundled with the decryption library nor the decryption keys. Vlc out of the box can not decrypt blurays.

If yuzu can, if you provide some keys, eh that might be enough for them to win. It's certainly not enough to push nintendo away. You unfortunately need to be extremely careful around the dmca stuff.

It's good we are all clear, nintendo isn't arguing that. They are arguing a case about copyright infringement and being in violation of the dmca

They might have a case if yuzu is actually decrypting switch software. That would be stupid of the developers, though. I would assume that they require you to provide decrypted games.

That's basically the only leg nintendo has to stand on here, but nintendo can out lawyer you into the poor house regardless.

Honestly, just make the free service a restricted demo. We don't need more ads.

This is layoffs.

Sony makes lots of money, huge amounts. Billions in profit. This has nothing to do with actual money made.

Karma for who? Sony will likely get an improved stock price from doing this and 900 people lost their livelihood. Have some compassion.

Public companies don't take private investment without issuing new shares. Which is not a common thing.

If you think publicly traded companies are taking investment like privately traded companies then I think you are likely somewhat uninformed.

Yeah, but supermassive don't seem to go that way, which is why I was pointing out the publisher thing.

Supermassive doing layoffs is somewhat surprising. Not owned by a giant megacorp looking for short-term shareholder value increases. Their games are generally via the traditional publisher route, so budgets agreed in advance and continued based on milestones. Plus the founders left last month. Don't have good answers for their layoffs.

and a gesture, no i don't think it's worth buying either or anything i care about either. i'm just trying to point out that they are trying to squeeze everything out of it

There's also like a premium version that costs even more and comes with some extra stuff. Dlc got dlc now.

Fromsoft are obviously squeezing every penny they can whilst they are able to. I'll likely just wait and get a more reasonably priced version. 2024 is stacked with amazing looking games.

It's probably a reference to fish & chips, which... yeah.

Note a difference between that and what we're talking about. We're saying that if you modeled a table in your previous game, just use that same table again.

Repetitive use of assets within a single game is another thing