dragontamer @ dragontamer @lemmy.world

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Not much else to do on that front. National politics have moved away from your community.

We will try again in 2 years and 4 years respectively. But for now, we just gotta sit tight and build local bulwarks.

Can you move to a blue state or other area where a community will protect you?

Crossover with The Enigma of Amigara Fault / Jund Itos hole comic when?

Nazis came into power in the early 1930s. It required them to lose a major war in 1945 and the death of their cult leader before they stood down.

It appears that one of our greatest mistakes was allowing the Nazis to become a comedy trope (like the Producers), showing them as incompetent buffoons. In reality, they were a decade-long threat that made the world extremely uncomfortable. Nazis don't fall over just because they're "the bad guys", and outside of some more-powerful superpower rising up and kicking their ass its not so clear how to make them fall.

That being said: Trump and the MAGAs are NOT Nazis and thank god for that. They are Americans and ultimately I tie them closer to the Know Nothings or Whigs.

The Presidents of the 1800s caused major atrocities over the Native Americans, and the USA then had a century of anti-Native American / bad-guy Indian savages to deal with. Of course, we won those battles so it wasn't such a big deal but the atrocities remain a black spot in our moral history. Given the trajectory of what we're witnessing here, I expect a similar thing for MAGA.

I'll double check the finale right after I get a brand new VHS player to check the tapes. But I do admit that I'm working off of memory here, lol.

Anastasia survived as an amnesiac who was taught by a con-man to act like a Princess again but then slowly regains her memories before shattering the phylactery of Rasputin because Rasputin's incompetent bat familiar couldn't catch it.

You know. Once upon a deceeeeeeeemmmmmbeeeerrrrrrrrr!

The rumor of Rasputin and the Russian Queen is much much older than the song though.

I don't think it was ever confirmed either. Tzar Nicholas did often leave to WW1 front to inspect troops (and other kingly duties), so it's just Rasputin and the Queen left in Moscow....

It might be bullshit. It might not be. But Rasputin's family line were dealing with said rumors for a century or more.

Somehow they wrote Hank Hill to be a very nonpolitical Texan. I'm not sure if on the spectrum describes him as much as he's a slightly exaggerated Texas hard ass character.

I mean, King of the Hill is also a cartoon. A better one with more authenticity.

Abe Lincoln famously warned us about how people make up shit on the Internet.

There is more that meets the eye,

Can I make it more obvious?

This is how the story ends...

Well it wasn't good enough for her.

and NK engagement is very favourable for both sides of the agreement,

Then NK troops was always going to happen. It's not a penalty for Kursk invasion, but a security partnership that should have been predicted.

And Republicans think 2025 is liberal propaganda. It will be different when it truly starts.

Trump pissed on the FBI and continues to piss on it.

What's this DoJ you talk about? Trump is too stupid to use it for his own gains.

You are right if Trump was smart enough to take over. But I'm not sure he is smart enough. Secondly, even if he does take over DoJ and FBI, it will take time before his loyalists truly know how to use the agency or spin up their programs.

These people will be placed in concentration camps

Passive voice because you're ignorant. Who will place people in concentration camps?

Because the who is incredibly important in this scenario and tells us how to fight. Are you saying the military will be deployed to create concentration camps across America? Are you saying local Police need to build these camps and maintain them? Or, does Donald trump need to pass a new law + build a new organization from scratch that will oversee this?

For-profit prison system still requires $$$$ to be pumped in for it to work. Where does Trump get the money for these facilities? Do the local states pay for them?

I'm talking about our serious next option here. Not pie in the sky fantasy scenarios. The realistic move is a boneheaded attempt by Trump to deploy the military for a mass deportation attempt, but he hasn't thought that far ahead yet. He hasn't figured out where people will be imprisoned, he hasn't figured out how to train the military for this task. He hasn't figured out US Citizen rights during deportation sweeps. He hasn't figured out jurisdiction yet. Etc. etc.

There's details to the plan that we can disrupt as it comes into fruition. We resist at every step and stop it at every turn possible.

Refuse to hand over their jurisdiction to the military. Declare the military to be an unlawful invasion and a break of 10th Amendment rights. Etc. etc.

At that point, you're turning the local police over to the Protester's side. And the Police hold strong sway over the local judges and politicians. FOP in particular is powerful lobbying group because they hold the blessings of the Police.

What is Trump going to do? Order the military to fire upon the Police? Lulz. That's not how any of this works, and its not how coups work either. Over control of fucking St. Louis? Its not even worth the hassle.

Need to put down a big protest in St Louis? Send in troops with live rounds, none of that less lethal bullshit. Maybe it takes a couple days longer to get them there, maybe there aren’t quite as many boots on the ground as you wanted, maybe they get deployed in kind of dumb ways.

This is so fucking stupid I'm wondering if you're beginning to troll me.

So what happens to St. Louis police in this scenario? You're saying that the Police will give up their authority to the Federal level? That's severely anti-Republican on all fronts.

There's political forces at play here that you're seemingly completely ignorant about. Do you think the local chapter of the Fraternal Order of Police would allow military action to take place in their jurisdiction? Do you think that soldiers would be treated more (or less) specially than the local police? Do you not see how this causes distrust in the two groups?

Do you think Trump is effective at recruiting and merging organizations so that such political actions proceed smoothly? (IE: Do you think St. Louis Police would deputize the US Military, or vice versa, to share authority in a way that both sides agree upon?)

And that ignores the long-standing US Military tradition of staying the fuck out of local issues. The military command knows they're a bunch of killers. They don't want to deploy locally.

So you're saying its like Swatting but even better?

Cool. Lets see how that plays out.

Incompetence means they won't be able to get anything done at all. Which leads to the rise of SS or other loyalist police groups (in the case of Putin: KGB/FSB).

You're ignoring a huge part of what makes fascism actually work. The ability for orders to be carried out at all.

Secondly, its not military powers that allowed SS to help Hitler or KGB/FSB to help Putin. Its police powers that let them do that. And Donald Trump has royally fucked his reputation with the FBI, the closest thing to a proper police agency.

I'd keep an eye to see if Trump can successfully take over FBI, because that's where the worst-case scenario lies. But FBI lost their headquarters back in 2016 because Trump fucked them over, and Trump still hates them because of Jack Smith's most recent investigation. So I'm betting on incompetence here.

Force means jack shit. Police powers are the powers to launch investigators and build intelligence. Knowing who and how and why to arrest people is the power of the Police. And a corrupt police is the most dangerous.

Military? They can shoot but they don't know what to do after that. There are Military Police units, but they're too small for any real action. Its FBI and other police agencies that have the real power that you're talking about.