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Oh gosh, it's been years, probably a decade or more. It looks like this study analyzes modern hunter-gatherers and some other data. It shows the similar lifespans between groups. The data is old, though - it includes US data from 2002, before recent drops in expectancy. For hunter gatherers it shows that the mortality is highest for infants and reduces until around age 15, after which mortality remains low and stable. That's probably a similar adult age cut-off as what I had read previously.

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The adult life expectancy for hunter-gatherers was higher than that of adults for most of the modern era. Some developed nations with healthcare access returned to similar levels, but not until the mid 20th century. It is now on the downturn again in some of these countries.

Adult life expectancy does not measure how easy life is, but it is arguably a good proxy for quality of life as we know that people with hard lives statistically die younger.

Agriculture introduced a lot of health and social issues. It allowed humans to explode in number and territory, but that wasn't because they were living better lives. They were sickly and stunted. Just like today, population expansion was likely enacted for the benefit of the top actors on the hierarchy chart (tribal leaders then, business leaders now). Strongly vertical hierarchies and the inequality associated with it do not appear to have regularly occurred prior to agriculture. Neither did widespread slavery. In 2023 there were still 50 million+ people enslaved in the world, even though slavery is now illegal virtually everywhere.

Another data point that backs up these trends is the fall of the Western Roman Empire, and Europe's subsequent Dark Age. Migration patterns changed, hierarchies were flattened, average quality of life and adult life expectancy went up.

Again, the ease of a life is a hard thing to judge. But many things that ail the common person to this day, did not exist prior to agriculture. I would say "the case can be made" that hunter/gatherer life was easier than agriculture, but I'm not sure how that would be established objectively (except through imperfect proxies such as adult life expectancy).

Jevons

The most important thing is finding solace from within imo. I think there will always be times when we must carry ourselves, so it is good to be comfortable doing so. Many friendships break because shared burdens become too much on top of personal burdens. Relying on each other is a good thing, but being able to support yourself when needed will make rare friendships last longer.

It always helps tremendously to put in an intentional effort for networking - through social clubs, internet boards, community events, etc. Of course, this gets harder the further you are from "normal." Moving to a different region can potentially act as a multiplier, depending on where you are coming from and where you are going.

There are always groups of oddballs out there. These are the outsiders of society. They tend not to look for others, but to also be welcoming of anyone who will welcome them. They pop up among restaurant industry workers, performers, DnD nerds, clubbers and ravers, goths and satanists, crusties, and probably many other groups. They can be a bit prickly to strangers, but if you're looking to not be judged for being yourself, then they can be the best of friends. So you might consider trying to network with these types of groups in particular, if you can find one with a shared interest.

You could also take a different path and commit yourself to a passion project, local or remote. Like building a community garden, or programming something. The people you meet will help, but the passion itself can also help to relieve the feeling of loneliness.

I deal in the real world where shit has consequences.

You say as you stick your head in the sand. You can't accept that the fascists duped you on this, can you? That you're uncritically repeating their talking points?

The absolute fucking irony, lmao

I'm not trying to deny that anti-natalism considers the material conditions of population numbers and resource constraints.

My only concern here is that you not reverse the meaning of fascism.

The modern anti-natalist movement is about the personal choice to not have children, and occasionally being a counsel or advocate for others pondering their life choices. It has nothing to do with government, corporations, or national mythos.

The ecofascism that currently exists is manifest as jingoism against Chinese and Indian (out-group) climate change contributions, which does not take the form of anti-natalist language. It uses tribalist language, as fascism does. The reverse side of this ecofascism is domestic (in-group) anti-anti-natalism, such as Musk espouses. They demand the expendable laborers make more children to weaken labor power, and decry childless individuals as degenerates.

Yeah, people in destructive developed nations voluntarily choosing to not have children in order to reduce future global suffering is totally fascist.

Real lebensborn stuff, right?

Is the mask slipping, or being pulled down?

Right. My memory is a bit hazy (I don't use the store). What I was trying to address was the revenue funnel they built around the environment. MS still gets a cut of the $400 certs, right?

The UX of the scary warning is to make the user feel safe installing signed software in comparison, but there is no guarantee that a signed app does not contain an exploit. It's an abuse of people's misunderstandings of security, for profit and user share.

Maybe I should have worked through my thoughts a little more before posting, but hopefully this clarifies my sentiment. And like I said, I don't use the store at all, so if I still have some inaccuracies then I welcome corrections.

til

I think the point of the Windows store is to coerce developers into either using the Visual Studio environment and beta testing new package formats, or paying MS a fee to get a signed certificate.

I got some specifics wrong and didn't explain my sentiment well. See dev_null's response below and my reply to it.

Look at what they do, not what they say.