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Franchised dealerships serve as the direct link between you and your vehicle’s manufacturer, ensuring warranty repairs and recalls are carried out correctly, on time. These technicians receive specialized, brand-specific training and have access to advanced diagnostic tools and software unavailable to many independent shops. Dealers also streamline the administrative side of warranties by billing manufacturers directly, reducing hassles for customers.

When a recall is announced, dealers receive replacement parts, software updates, and instructions straight from the automaker. This close coordination helps them meet regulatory standards, fulfill recall requirements quickly, and maintain consistent quality. Their established physical infrastructure also enables them to handle sudden increases in repair demand. Today, dealerships ensure accountability between manufacturers and customers, creating a more dependable system than would be immediately possible with a fragmented network of independent service centers.

So. Smart guy. This would not work TODAY at any scale. Especially since third party shops do NOT have the same accountability requirements that dealers do.

Can it work? Yes. As already stated.

It could. It wouldn’t today. Feel free to go back and read my first comment. Then leave me alone.

My point is dealers are part of the system.

That’s not a warranty repair, nor will the repairs be covered under manufacturer warranties (assuming you had coverage).

The dealership is an effective partner and extension of the manufacturer. This is the relationship that’s been well established for decades. I’m finished with this discussion. You clearly don’t have the capacity to understand the business relationships required to make this new model work.

Because it’s the manufacturers RESPONSIBILITY. Not the local mechanics’.

What is so difficult about this?

The point is, where are you going to get your warranty service without a dealer? They need to work this out first, whether with local shop agreements or whatever. I understand they should be responsible, but I don’t think buyers will want to drive their car back to the factory.

Oi.

There is that word “just” again. You need to require them to report completion and to certify efficacy. Are you going to also require car brands to honor warranty repairs completed by a third party mechanic? What I’m attempting to point out to you is that this all requires a network and established agreements, not “just” some ad-hoc repair services.

There is. It uses dealerships. This is my entire point.

Not for recalls. It’s easy for folks to sit on social media and assume any mechanic can do it, but that’s not the case. The whole system would have to change. With the biggest being the requirement to track compliance with federally mandated recalls. There is no responsibility of the mechanic to report completion of a repair, nor certification regarding efficacy.

Edit: I actually just re-read your question. I thought you meant brands, but you said dealerships. So.. your argument for bypassing dealerships is to use dealerships?

Wow. Who said anything about trapping. Both you an OP are dancing across the line of opposing arguments:

A cognizant patient is above all a free person. A free person is free to accept and to deny care, whatever may come.

I don't understand the logic playing mental gymnastics to make a patient stay at a unit

You can’t make a patient stay unless they are mentally incompetent, a minor, or in a state where leaving could pose a threat to safety. This would likely require a court order. The patient is always free to simply leave. It’s not a stupid question, but it is a flawed premise.

So.. both of your arguments effectively boil down to, “Why should medical professionals care?”

I’m finished with this thread.

Your first part is correct. The “just” is not correct. You need logistics and reporting, esp for recalls.

Edit: posting this at the top so new readers don’t have to read through the stupidity that ensues:

There are virtually no manufacturers that allow non-dealers to perform recall and warranty work today.

Federal regulations (primarily under the National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act) require automakers to provide a remedy for safety defects at no cost to the consumer. Automakers fulfill that obligation by designating “authorized” service locations—almost ALWAYS their franchised dealerships or manufacturer-owned service centers—to perform the recall repairs.

From a practical standpoint dealerships are bound by their franchise agreements with the manufacturer. Those contracts typically require authorized dealers to perform warranty and recall work on behalf of the automaker. So, while the government obligates the manufacturer to fix the defect, the manufacturer in turn relies on its dealerships (as spelled out in their franchise agreements) to handle the actual repairs.

Seems like everyone would have made it if there was more room to let the plane run out its speed, an EMAS, RESA, etc.

I guess you could also ask what’s the reason for working at a suicide hotline? Seems similar enough in many cases.

Alternatively, I’m sure many patients simply see attempts to keep them there as upselling. They feel fine, etc. It’s not the medical professional’s fault our healthcare billing/payment system sucks. Many genuinely care, and without some level of urging.. how would a patient know an issue was urgent?

The only potential downside I see to plans like this are warranty service. As long as they have s way to ensure covered break-fix and recall support, let’s do it.

The BUB RUBIK TICKS

You can poison the routes within the BGP core to send traffic into a black hole. Basically, just tell everyone you have the best path, and they will send traffic to you.

There have been instances of this at the international level with adversary nations “accidentally” routing all traffic through them first. It can be done to a degree that it makes life difficult. They won’t be able to prevent you from finding a VPN that pops you out near a router that refuses the poisoned routes however- not without a global agreement at least.

The suit that took it away, not from the mom and pop owners. “Mom” already sold her half:

Mikkelson and his ex-wife Barbara founded Bardav – which owns the Snopes website – in 2003, and each owned a 50 percent shared in the company. When the two divorced, Barbara Mikkelson sold her share to Proper Media last July.

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“Mikkelson, in conjunction with Green, intentionally did block Proper Media’s access to personnel, accounts, tools and data to take over Snopes and to prevent Proper Media from performing under the general services agreement,” Proper Media says in its lawsuit.

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The company also accuses Mikkelson of misusing Bardav funds and says he was improperly reimbursed for legal fees related to his divorce and travel expenses from when he went on a honeymoon to Asia late last year with his new bride – Snopes employee Elyssa Young.

She sold her shares “last July”. He went on is honeymoon “last year”. Dad’s dick ruined the last good thing on the internet.

The perpetual failing of the right is they all want to be authoritarians.

These are the people that vote for Trump.