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If you can’t see how the methods in husbandry are used against us then have a look at the holocaust.

the holocaust was abhorrent, in part, precisely because it treated people like animals. treating animals like animals is fine.

very good. have you considered creative writing as a career?

you seemed to be saying

i never made this about myself at all. i'd prefer if you didn't make tihs personal.

It’s not trying to prove that people on food stamps can afford a diet the government hasn’t designed their food program for them to afford lmao

no, but beaver's claim that it's 30% cheaper may not be true for those people. i mean it could be. it could possibly be EVEN CHEAPER. i don't really know. and the linked oxford study doesn't tell us.

if i have food, throwing it away and getting more food is more expensive.

we haven't said anything about my diet. i'm talking purely about the merits of the paper raised in this context.

but it doesn't actually show whether poor people can afford a vegan diet. it's misleading.

heir link was addressing the claim that eating vegan is a luxury.

and it did so misleadingly, as being in teh position to always pay full price for food at a store is a luxury.

which seems to be the goal of both beaver and the editorial staff who posted the fluff piece that beaver linked.

i'm not dismissing the paper. i'm explaining how it's being deceptively framed.

this subthread was about beaver's misleading link.

so the headline that is used on the site, and the excerpt used to create the link in this thread both need some heavy caveats. without proper context, both the claims made by them are actually false.

you're the one obsessed with defending a paper whose scope was too limited to cover any of these scenarios so do what you want i guess

Lol we can keep going with this if you want, it’s pretty fun.

this smacks of bad faith.

Costs nothing to harvest a plant, too.

foraging for plants is a lot less calorie efficient than hunting or fishing.

i don't see what your point could possibly be. most people will not find it cheaper to be vegan without significant changes to both their own lifestyle and systemic change. the oxford paper completely ignores anyone who isn't

• paying
• full price
• at the supermarket.

comparing slaves to animals is what slavers do.

Not supporting slavery and murder however should be the norm

it is. most people oppose slavery and murder.

this is pretty much just appeal to emotion.

it costs us almost nothing to take down a deer. it costs us a great deal to raise a garden.