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If enough people didn’t buy the product then there wouldn’t be a demand and the person that pays the “milker” wouldn’t pay them anymore.

we made milk before we had money. there is no reason to believe it will ever stop

And I believe the “rape of animals” vegans refer to is taking their milk without consent.

milking isn't rape, either.

Buying the product increases the demand for the product making the store want to provide the product so they purchase it from the farmer.

the. store makes their own decisions. I don't decide for them

That isn’t how supply/demand works. If you are creating a demand, which you are when buying the product, you are incentivizing someone to create a supply.

supply and demand is a price seeking theory. you are misapplying the term to use it this way

You pay the store for the milk, the store pays the wholesaler and the wholesaler pays the farmer who is committing “animal abuse/ rape”.

but I'm not paying the store to pay the farmer. I'm paying for a product.

further, artificial insemination is a veterinary procedure. it is not rape.

paying them as indirectly as you are supporting the animal abuse indirectly.

no, you're not. if someone is abusing livestock, they are paid by someone who isn't me and long before I walk into the grocery store.

you are absolved of responsibility for animal abuse completely just because you are paying someone to do it

no one is paying someone to abuse animals

you should check a dictionary. farmers exploit their fields, oil companies exploit wells. don't take my word for it

and the other people in my inbox certainly don't think I'm vegan. why do you?

you’ve assumed i agree with your position that eating meat = animal exploitation,

this is a bare fact. like drinking water is often exploited from a well. exploitation is not bad in itself.

The fact is that if you banned animal ag, you would significantly reduce total child labor violations.

how can you prove this?

at least someone trying to reduce one’s dependancy on this shit is doing something

but i AM doing something. i bought a buss pass last month. it's just as effective!

can you show a causal link between being vegan and a decrease in child labor? my guess is that there is a general trend of increased child labor globally that tracks closely the rise in veganism.

being vegan doesn't reduce it either

didn't you already try that? it didn't work.

look up vystopia

that's what i'm asking you to stop doing. stop making it personal.

What they claimed was “a whole foods plant-based diet is 30% cheaper.”

Which is factually supported by the study

...for a limited segment of the population.

right. it's simply not scoped to support the claim tha being vegan is 30% cheaper

I’m not trying to make this about you,

then kindly leave me out of your analysis.

If you can’t see how the methods in husbandry are used against us then have a look at the holocaust.

the holocaust was abhorrent, in part, precisely because it treated people like animals. treating animals like animals is fine.