clanginator @ clanginator @lemmy.world

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Yeah congratulations on completely missing the point of my last comment. I was making fun of how absurd and pointless your comment was.

You do know that each time, the Palestinians are the ones with the larger death toll and the disadvantage in technology and equipment, right?

WOW, REAAALLLYYYY? After reading multiple books on the history of the conflict, I HAD NO CLUE! Thank you for enlightening me, oh educated one!

I'm not your research assistant, but the book 100 Years War on Palestine can give you some much-needed perspective.

Wow it's almost as if Palestinians want to return to their fucking homes that they were forced out of, Jesus what a shocker, zomg

Yeah I fuckin fully support killing toddlers no matter the situation it's always okay.

And Zionism isn't strictly religious, it's a settler-colonial movement/project.

Britain didn't own it, they "controlled" it as a result of the fallout of WW1 (Palestine was previously part of the Ottoman Empire).

No, Israel does that. They just use dog whistles. But they ABSOLUTELY do that.

11,000 Palestinians killed by Israelis since 2000. 1,500 Israelis killed by Palestinians. (Prior to current events)

Actions speak too.

What if the bully went up to someone and said "I'm going to fucking kill you" and then tried to kill them using all means possible all because the bully and the other person exist in the same area?

This sentence alone shows your complete and utter lack of understanding of the situation and the history that has led to it.

Jewish population in 1917 was 8%, but 1936 that was 28%. In 1948, during the Nakba, it jumped from 32% to 82%. Palestinians were the indigenous people of Palestine until the Zionist movement INTENTIONALLY AND SYSTEMATICALLY took over, killed, burnt down, and destroyed not only men women and children, but every facet of Palestinian culture they could.

They shut Palestine out of negotiations and diplomatic channels, and ran straight-up propaganda campaigns in America to convince numbskulls like you who believe the slant they hear on Fox news about how Hamas are just terrorists.

Hamas actually attempted to be a legitimate government that played by the rules, as did the PLO. They were backstabbed, lied to, led on, and ignored by US, UN, Israel, Britain, etc.

I had sympathy for their plight until they indiscriminately killed people who had zero interaction with their problems

You can have sympathy for the plight of the Palestinian people while condemning actions taken by militants. Nuance is possible here.

Ah so you're a fuckin Zionist, GOT IT. I knew I smelled fascist.

Indigenous people cannot start a war defending their homeland from a settler-colonial project that seeks to destroy them as a people.

Try and use that brain of yours for more than being a headass, mkay?

More people will die until they stop oppressing. More resistance will happen when they do more barbaric things in the name of defense.

The Zionists are on the wrong side of history. The Palestinians aren't any closer to giving up.

I’m not sure why they continue to try fighting

Oppression breeds resistance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba

So I recently went to the effort to actually read some books on the situation there.

This event, and any like it, are inexcusable war crimes. Atrocious acts that cannot be justified. There have been countless war crimes on both sides of this war, unfortunately for not just the two countries involved but all the other people and countries that have been in the way (Lebanon, for one).

But these actions ARE the direct result of the oppression and genocides the Palestinian people have endured for the last century. Hamas actually had many members who advocated against such methods and well-connected members who made many attempts to negotiate through diplomatic channels, but thanks in large part to concerted propaganda efforts in the US by Israel, the war crimes committed by Israel are rarely reported as war crimes, at least in sources that most Americans would read. The Zionist movement from the start was well-funded and well-connected, and took advantage of that and their US propaganda to shut any Palestinian groups out of democratic/diplomatic channels.

Again, I'm not trying to excuse or be dismissive of the situation at hand - this is a completely inhumane, unforgivable act that makes me sick to my stomach to read about.

But I also KNOW that Israel committed war crimes last night just based on the retaliatory statements they were making - it echoes EERILY statements made by Israeli leaders prior to some of the most horrific war crimes of this war. And I know that many of those war crimes will probably go undocumented/unreported.

And again, not to justify anything, but to bring perspective: nearly 11,000 Palestinians have died in the war since 2000, to about 1,500 Israelis, and that doesn't consider the Palestinians jailed or the many ways they are oppressed in their own land.

"You can only kick a dog so much before it snaps" - doesn't mean a dog biting a kid that didn't kick it is okay, but it biting the kid is still attributable to the abuse it endured which caused it to go feral.

We try but we're facing the same horde of angry assholes you are. And no help from the pulpit.

The problem is, modern Christianity is more of a social club than a religion, and too many Christians are afraid of the church-social ramifications of calling out their brothers and sisters in Christ/simply have not committed to letting the teachings of the bible ACTUALLY dictate how they live.

As someone raised Christian, IMO if ur not ready to become a pastor yourself to BE that help from the pulpit, or go have serious conversations with your church leaders, or try and organize church members for a demonstration, or SOMETHING, you're not actually living out Christian values.

The Christian faith calls you to put aside your personal comfort in order to help others and do what's right. If you don't believe strongly enough to follow that through to its' full extent, what's the point of being a Christian?

I have to educate my Christian family members on how to be respectful towards LGBTQ+ people because nobody in the church is willing to tell their "brothers and sisters in Christ" that the way they speak of others isn't Christ-like and is harmful.

Obviously I don't know what you have or haven't done, I don't mean this to say you aren't trying, but I feel like for people who truly believe the Christian faith it requires pretty radical lifestyle changes that would lead to either reforming the church or being forced out of a congregation.

Twitter was absolutely special when it came out. It was the first (or at the very least first successful) social media designed for mobile use. It also had large effects on how people thought about and used social media, and had big impacts on the ways various companies and people interact on social media.

I've never particularly cared about twitter personally, I used it a handful of times here and there, and I agree that currently and for a while it's been a pretty shit slice of social media. But saying it was never special is a stretch at best.

I mean, too bad. You're accessing the results of your genetic data that contain sensitive personal information on relatives as well as yourself. Banks require 2FA, and people figure out how to use that.