chebra @ chebra @mstdn.io

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@caos Yes, true, notification wasn't the right term. They will see it as a post from someone they follow. The problem is that I don't think the mods of the L community are able to ban M accounts from mentioning the L community, or prevent the reboost on the M side. Which means this kind of event is going to slip through. Or at least that's how I currently understand it, I'm trying to find out if it's really the case - who can moderate these spam mentions?

@otter I've seen other instance admins discussing that certain way of removal federates, but other doesn't. I don't know the specifics. Deleting from lemmy db directly doesn't federate, it clears it on that particular instance, but it makes it worse for others. https://slrpnk.net/comment/6287249

@nar@maly.io @nar@lemmy.ml And this is how it looks on the mastodon side, for anyone wondering: https://mstdn.io/@chebra/111950837765992663

I think the federation sometimes takes a couple of minutes, I saw this lemmy thread through two lemmy instances, and they showed different comments. Eventually it should synchronize though. And mastodon posts older than a week usually aren't shown through other than the poster's main instance.

@willya I'm actually amazed such interoperability works, it just needs better tools for catching the spam.

@otter ouch, so that's even worse than I realized. I'm still getting some spam from the small abandoned M instances but only when it mentions the L name and it looks like even when it gets deleted from L, it still stays on the M side. I have spam posts in my timeline many hours old. This is bad because it looks like the only way to avoid them is to unfollow the community or block all spammers individually by myself.

@xilliah It's not free though. It came with licenses. And LLMs don't have the capability to "study", they are just a glorified random word generator.

@Secret300 Cinny

@podified

Now how many of them are not actually open source?

@BRINGit34 Oh, not to be confused with another "Paisa", personal finance manager, also made in India https://github.com/ananthakumaran/paisa

@SNFi Woodpecker passed 1.0 recently and it's much better. Try it again.

@sylphio

Oh damn, I always thought Apache2.0 will protect also the derivative works, but apparently I was wrong:

You may add Your own copyright statement to Your modifications and may provide additional or different license terms and conditions for use, reproduction, or distribution of Your modifications, ...

https://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html

@sylphio @lascapi

Beeper Clients
Native iOS and Android clients (closed source forks of Element iOS and Android)
Mac OS, Windows and Linux clients (closed source forks of Element Web/Desktop)

How can they make a closed source fork of an open source (Apache-2.0) project?

@stsquad @EmbeddedEntropy

We have gotten used to this being ubiquitous and “free as in beer” but it’s not really.

Any big company which cannot bear the costs of publishing code to github can just calculate how much it would have costed them, then send the code to me and I'll upload it to github for them and only ask for half of the price. Seriously, I'll halve your "cost". Because it is actually free and they are just bullshitting.

@graphito

emphasis on their

Other contributors are sending their code under this agreement https://github.com/vector-im/element-web/blob/develop/CONTRIBUTING.md#sign-off

@graphito

that would be stealing the code from all of the other contributors. I don't see any signoff to allow them to double-license these contributions.

@graphito

wait what?

https://github.com/beeper/self-host

Beeper Clients

Native iOS and Android clients (closed source forks of Element iOS and Android)
Mac OS, Windows and Linux clients (closed source forks of Element Web/Desktop)

How can an Apache-2.0 licensed project be forked as closed source?