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  • Yes it is check the Talk page. wikipedia had even changed their title from "Uyghur Genocide" to this in light of an actual Genocide going on in Gaza. Also the fact that RFA, ASPI and other openly funded by western government sources are allowed, but no Chinese sources is a heavy western bias in wikipedia..

  • But Chinese companies control more than 99 per of the global market for battery-grade graphite and 69 per cent of the market for synthetic graphite used in battery anodes, according to consultancy Benchmark Minerals Intelligence.

    Without an exemption to the FEOC rules for battery makers to secure graphite from Chinese suppliers, it is possible that no vehicles will qualify for the generous tax credits that the Biden administration is offering EV buyers, Ahn Duk-geun, South Korea’s minister of trade, industry and energy, told the Financial Tim

  • The Shenzhen frenzy dovetails with Hong Kong residents’ growing willingness to work and live in mainland China. A survey of people under 40 in the city by the Hong Kong-Guangdong Youth Association conducted last year found 66% of them are now open to employment across the border, tripling from 22% in 2020.

    China genocided HKs culture so that more ppl stop realizing how bad cummunism is

  • Nah you’re right we should take what the people randomly attacking ships

    They're not attacking Chinese and Russian ships, so not quite random I would say.

    potential desires of the famously peaceful Islamic republic which provides them arms and training.

    Noone is saying they're not getting support.

    Nah you're right we should take what the west and Israel are saying at face value and believe that these attacks are totally random. We definitely should bomb them in order to make them stop, instead of considering that they might be right in demanding a stop of the genocide in Gaza.

  • Wikipedia quote

    It seems you're such a lib that you believe "actual events recorded in history" can be presented neutrally, when you can "actual events recorded in history" only in a biased manner. There is no such thing as no-bias. When I say you're justifying it, it is because you giving the capitalist narrative.

    Sorry, defacto annexation, but please feel free to continue being pedantic.

    So suddenly you do care about defacto things.

    Irrelevant wikipedia quote that doesn't contradict what I'm saying

    Poland was having a non aggression pact with Germany in 1934 But the non aggression pact with Poland and the Soviets happened in 1932, not 1934…?

    Poland-Germany not Poland-Soviets

    The main point is that Stalin's non-agression pact with Hitler was long after all other nations appeased and it was obv. Hitler would attack in order to buy time.

    Lol, we’ve been arguing this whole time how NATO was formed in the first place…

    It's because you can't read. I at least been arguing about when NATO was formed. And it was formed on a thing geopolitical Pre-Text ("defacto" pretext as opposed to "dejure" pretext which is easier to justify decisions to other countries)

    Lol, yeah they were so upset when they were performing joint peace keeping exercises together, or stopping an ethnic cleansing…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Munich_speech_of_Vladimir_Putin

    so I think I’ll be okay with leftist sources.

    https://valleysunderground.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/blackshirts-and-reds-by-michael-parenti.pdf

    Lying about history doesn’t do any of that.

    Thinking that there's only one or "true" version of history snief

  • We were discussing the history of how NATO formed.

    No you were justificating the formation of NATO. I am arguing that the NATO formation itself was a major reactionary force of aggression on thinly veiled pretext.

    It was reflexive to the coup in Czechoslovakia 48’… A defensive alliance is more of an escalation than annexing 2 countries?

    WW2 ended in 45’, the Soviets ran the coup in Czechoslovakia in 48’, NATO formed in a direct response to this in 49’.

    Not sure what you mean by "annexing". The Czechoslovak Socialist Republic (CSSR) was never formally a part of the Soviet Union. The USSR "running a coup" is a major stretch, as the communists inside the CSSR were not a minority and were quite capable of doing it themselves. And, again, the Warsaw pact was formed later, to which CSSR was indeed a member.

    So yeah the formation of NATO is a major escalation run by fascists, to serve capitalists interests by being aggressive towards the USSR. Why are you so thick about it?

    The Munich conference was in 38’ prior to the war, and prior to the beginnings of NATO.

    Yes dude, and Poland was having a non aggression pact with Germany in 1934, so a non-aggression pact in 1939 from Stalin was him buying time for it was known that Hitler would expand east. Munich was basically screaming the invite for Hitler to go there after all.

    I’m not arguing for it, I’m just trying to accurately depict the history of NATO’s relationship with the Russian federation.

    Yeah you're arguing and justificating it by saying shit like this: "You can go and look at the demilitarization of NATO from the 90’s all the way until 2014.", because it doesn't matter how much it demilitarized, when it shouldn't have been formed in the first place and disbanded at the latest with the dissolution of the Warsaw pact. I'm not arguing NATO didn't demilitarize after the dissolution of USSR. I'm arguing that the expansion east when there was no threat is - geopolitically speaking - an aggression.

    Capitalist don’t want to pay for war equipment they don’t use, there’s just no profit return on military spending unless you are on the supply side like America.

    Did you even bother to check how the US MIC is profiting off of the Ukraine war? Because you sound really naive saying things like:

    You think an alliance that lasted multiple decades is just going to vanish overnight? Again, there is a process of demobilization that was well underway, that is until the Russians started playing their little game of partitions.

    Having it kept around after the fall of the USSR is what made Russian "play their little game of paritions". You made a friend a foe, which causes war and serves the MIC.

    As I said before: you're reversing cause and effect. Why are you so thick about it?

    This is the frustrating thing, you could not academically honestly read that article and think that it proves your point.

    It's because you don't understand the context and thus fail to read the subtext of it and the significance of the provided source...

    You’re just looking up articles with headlines that are tangentially connected to your claim.

    .., because when you provide a non-western or anti-capitalist source shitlibs usually to try to invalidate it. I failed you realize that you'd do regardless of source, because you don't even grasp the context.

    You just want to be performative and establish a rhetoric that suits your biases.

    Your "lols" are?

    I thought you might actually be interested in honest discourse

  • Interest in America joining was fairly immediate after America adopted the Truman doctrine

    A reactionary that knowingly or self-deceptively dropped atomic bombs on Japan, even though Japan was pretty much defeated already.

    Which was a response to Stalin enacting the coup in Czechoslovakia after the Communist party in Italy and France failed to make any gains. This of course happened after the Soviet and Nazi split Poland between themselves.

    Conveniently jumping timelines and failing to mention the Munich conference, conflating non-aggression pacts with splinting Poland,..

    Thus the north Atlantic treaty was formed.

    A defensive alliance created in 1949 a significant escalation on a thinly veiled pre-text used by western capitalists.

    The Warsaw pact was a defense agreement? Or are you talking about prior to 55’?

    A reaction to the NATO formation, came the soviet unions defensive alliance the warsaw pact in 1955. Meaning, the first major escalation came from the Capitalist countries after WW2.

    You said it yourself earlier, NATO wasn’t exactly confident in the federation’s ability to maintain its commitment to democracy. But there was some cautious optimism, military spending was cut drastically, and there was a large demobilization of military equipment and personal.

    I know it wasn't signed and fuck Gorby for not getting it in writing, but NATO (a defensive alliance) should have been disbanded after the Warsaw pact disbanded. Increasing member states when everything was friendly, communicates geopolitically that there is a threat. What threat if theres no more SU and Yeltsin and Putin being friendly?

    NATO had serious talks about it’s future, delisted Russia as a sworn enemy, and started to be involved in more humanitarian aid.

    It was a defensive alliance, you're arguiing for a world police which basically means keeping the US as a hegemon. Fuck that.

    Things really don’t start to deteriorate until Kosovo in 99’. For some reason this time, Russia wouldn’t allow intervention to pass the UN security council, let alone help intervene like in Bosnia. After the conflict was over nato wanted to work with Russia to act as peace keepers, Russia for some reason this time wanted to act independently to look after their serbs. NATO was afraid it would partition the city and lead to future break away conflicts.

    Does not justify having kept NATO after the dissolution of the SU.

    US even handpicked Putin

    How?

    https://www.rferl.org/a/putin-s-a-solid-man-declassified-memos-offer-window-into-yeltsin-clinton-relationship/29462317.html

  • Lol, reversed neoliberal policies by organizing the oligarchs in order of personal loyalty?

    Pretty much yes. The toppling of the USSR brought shock-Therapy and privatization with Yeltsin and brought a lot of unemployment and instability. Putin alleviated that, making him popular. Yeltsin and Clinton even handpicked the guy to make sure he doesn't bring back the USSR (Sidenote, ever wonder why they don't show life expectancy curves never go before the 90s in russia? No, It's not because the numbers were faked).

    Ahh yes, my country’s stability is built upon a mountain of sanctions. Surely the benefits of adopting a wartime economy will never end, and never have any foreseeable consequences…

    You libs never explain why Putin a US handpicked guy went from friend to foe. Could it be because Rosneft and Gazprom are SOEs and Putin doesn't want to sell these off to Western capitalists?

    Yeah, having a single off-handed remark does not qualify as trying to join NATO three times. They never applied. You haven’t found one example, let alone three…

    They wouldn't let him, because he wanted to be an equal imperial country

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2001/08/putin-is-right-russia-belongs-in-nato/377557/

    https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-putin-says-discussed-joining-nato-with-clinton/28526757.html

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2000/03/06/putin-says-why-not-to-russia-joining-nato/c1973032-c10f-4bff-9174-8cae673790cd/

    Lol, so when you claim that America led a coup you were implying …?

    What do you mean by propped up? Are you implying that Russians are just a pawn to be played with?

    I don't deny it, the US topples regimes as it pleases and uses them as pawns. Like they do with Ukraine right now, or how they facilitate a genocide in Gaza, or agitate Taiwan against Mainland China. It's always funny to me when its usually libs you can't admit it and then you write shit like that. I seem to have rattled you lol

    Yes, as I said. Putin started feeling his power slip in the eastern block, as a response to the orange revolution they implemented hostile trade deals.

    Ergo he, as someone who does realist politics, saw the writing on the wall as NATO was expanding toward him.

    the heads of state for NATO Allies and Russia gave a positive assessment of NATO-Russia Council achievements in a Bucharest summit meeting in April 2008,[61] though both sides have expressed mild discontent with the lack of actual content resulting from the council

    Yes…at the Bucharest summit NATO claimed they wanted Georgia and Ukraine in NATO, the same summit you just said went well

    I thought you claimed the reason things soured was because the announcement at Bucharest? Now your claim is suggesting that things only soured after Russia backed a coup in Georgia…?

    Russia had interest to join, but only if NATO internally reformed for members to be on equal footing (Which hasn't happened until today, USA is the leader still) and Russia got rejected.

    I mean we're getting actually trapped in the minutia of the argument. The overall argument is that NATO is a reaction. First there was the creation of NATO (why if USSR and USA were allies in WW2?) and then came the Warsaw pact chronologically. The USSR, mind you, was an economic alliance. Even if we assume NATO saw the USSR as a threat (it actually was for it's capitalists) and was created as a result, why keep it, if not for imperialism after the dissolution of the USSR? US even handpicked Putin so it was all friendly back then, why increase members? For what threat? USSR is dissoloved and Putin was friendly at the time. If you had signs form Putin that expansion is seen as aggressive, why agitate? Saying now that the threat came true is a fucking joke.

  • Ahh yes, murdering the opposition into compliance, definitely winning the hearts and minds there.

    Putin is undeniably popular in Russia, having reversed neoliberal policies and bringing political stability after yeltsins shock therapy. Crimea: That's a lot of people no? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgMZBjgCFHo

    they got politically outmaneuvered.

    Ukraine seems to be a pawn in your worldview. Ok.

    They [Russia] didn’t try to join NATO three times.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/04/ex-nato-head-says-putin-wanted-to-join-alliance-early-on-in-his-rule That's at least one, not gonna do you the effort to find you the other ones

    How so?

    You missed how Navalny was propped up by the West??

    You’re asking why they wanted to join NATO for protection when they already have Russians occupying parts of their eastern territory?

    You’re talking about 08’ Bucharest Summit? The Russian federation was still in a join council with NATO at the time, and neither Ukraine nor Georgia were a priority to him

    NATO–Russia relations stalled and subsequently started to deteriorate, following the Ukrainian Orange Revolution in 2004–2005 and the Russo-Georgian War in 2008. 2004–2007

    In the years 2004–2006, Russia undertook several hostile trade actions directed against Ukraine and the Western countries (see #Trade and economy below). Several highly publicised murders of Putin's opponents also occurred in Russia in that period, marking his increasingly authoritarian rule and the tightening of his grip on the media (see #Ideology and propaganda below).

    In 2006, Russian intelligence performed an assassination on the territory of a NATO member state.[citation needed] On 1 November 2006, Alexander Litvinenko, a British-naturalised Russian defector and former officer of the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) who specialised in tackling organized crime and advised British intelligence and coined the term "mafia state", suddenly fell ill and was hospitalised after poisoning with polonium-210; he died from the poisoning on 23 November.[55] The events leading up to this are well documented, despite spawning numerous theories relating to his poisoning and death. A British murder investigation identified Andrey Lugovoy, a former member of Russia's Federal Protective Service (FSO), as the main suspect. Dmitry Kovtun was later named as a second suspect.[56] The United Kingdom demanded that Lugovoy be extradited, however Russia denied the extradition as the Russian constitution prohibits the extradition of Russian citizens, leading to a straining of relations between Russia and the United Kingdom.[57]

    Subsequently, Russia suspended in 2007 its participation in the 1990 Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe. 2008 Meeting of the NATO–Russia council in Bucharest, Romania on 4 April 2008

    In 2008, Russia condemned the unilateral declaration of independence of Kosovo,[58] stating they "expect the UN mission and NATO-led forces in Kosovo to take immediate action to carry out their mandate ... including the annulling of the decisions of Pristina's self-governing organs and the taking of tough administrative measures against them."[59] Russian President Vladimir Putin described the recognition of Kosovo's independence by several major world powers as "a terrible precedent, which will de facto blow apart the whole system of international relations, developed not over decades, but over centuries", and that "they have not thought through the results of what they are doing. At the end of the day it is a two-ended stick and the second end will come back and hit them in the face".[60] Europe was not unanimous in this matter, and a number of European countries have refused to recognise the sovereignty of Kosovo, while a number of further European nations did so only to appease the United States.[citation needed]

    Nevertheless, the heads of state for NATO Allies and Russia gave a positive assessment of NATO-Russia Council achievements in a Bucharest summit meeting in April 2008,[61] though both sides have expressed mild discontent with the lack of actual content resulting from the council.

    In early 2008, U.S. President George W. Bush vowed full support for admitting Georgia and Ukraine into NATO, to the opposition of Russia.[62][63] The Russian Government claimed plans to expand NATO to Ukraine and Georgia may negatively affect European security. Likewise, Russians are mostly strongly opposed to any eastward expansion of NATO.[64][65] Russian President Dmitry Medvedev stated in 2008 that "no country would be happy about a military bloc to which it did not belong approaching its borders".[66] Russia's Deputy Foreign Minister Grigory Karasin warned that any incorporation of Ukraine into NATO would cause a "deep crisis" in Russia–Ukraine relations and also negatively affect Russia's relations with the West.[67]

    Relations between NATO and Russia soured in summer 2008 due to Russia's war with Georgia. Later the North Atlantic Council condemned Russia for recognizing the South Ossetia and Abkhazia regions of Georgia as independent states.[68] The Secretary General of NATO claimed that Russia's recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia violated numerous UN Security Council resolutions, including resolutions endorsed by Russia. Russia, in turn, insisted the recognition was taken basing on the situation on the ground, and was in line with the UN Charter, the CSCE Helsinki Final Act of 1975 and other fundamental international law;[69] Russian media heavily stressed the precedent of the recent Kosovo declaration of independence.

  • I wouldn’t say they’re doing so well on the hearts and minds front…

    In Russia and Eastern Ukraine they did...

    Plus, I don’t think that’s really an academically honest opinion. It would be like saying America invaded Iraq because they had weapons of mass destruction.

    The US facilitated the coup in 2014 (at least there's a smoking gun), Russia tried to join NATO 3 times and got denied, domestically Navalny got propped up by the west. The writing was on the wall..unlike Iraq

    A lot of Ukrainians were not really excited about NATO prosperity until Russia started pulling the same shenanigans they did in Georgia and Moldavia. It’s not exactly a new tactic in Russia’s foreign policy.

    You're reversing cause and effect. First there was the prospect of joining NATO for Ukraine and Georgia then the war in Georgia happened as a response/protest from russia.

    Also you're admitting that the a lot of Ukrainian were not excited about joining NATO, why push for it anyway.. not really democratic. Sounds what a puppet government would do

  • Not if the sales pitch is as generic as your geopolitical understanding

  • False, it's because there is a genocide happening in Gaza which is facilitated by the west and they would like it to stop, so they are hitting where it hurts them most

  • For the Chinese economy, it signifies, as other commenters have noted and as pointed out in the article, the presence of a highly efficient Chinese industrial base capable of meeting not only domestic demand but also exporting increasingly sophisticated manufactured goods. While oversupply might trigger deflation domestically, the (planned) inflation target of around 3% for 2024, as suggested (and confirmed) by the article, indicates that China is successfully boosting exports instead. This indicates their ability to acquire capital for reinvestment, further enhancing their economy.

    Internationally, for consumers, this is positive news, especially in the post-COVID and Ukraine conflict period where inflation has pushed up prices, making goods more expensive. The availability of competitively priced Chinese goods, as the article terms it, "exporting deflation," therefore benefits consumers worldwide.

    However, on an international scale, this trend could potentially pose challenges for other nations trying to develop competitive domestic economies. It creates significant pressure within the capitalist mode of production, potentially making it difficult for other economies to compete effectively. Hopefully forcing them change the mode of production, realistically they will likely go the protectionist route.

  • Thank you for pointing this out for me.

    I apologize and take my statements back @sik0fewl@lemmy.ca

  • How did they incorrectly phrase it?

    Biden administration officials are concerned [...]

    The officials said any retaliation inside Israel is expected to focus on military or intelligence targets, rather than civilians.

    NBC

    Joe Biden’s administration is concerned any attack could be inside Israel, specifically against “military or intelligence targets, rather than civilians”.

    SCMP

    The meaning is the same...