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I can't think of anything lazier then making up a quote I didn't say, and then insulting it like they somehow proves anything.

It's amazing how meaningless the word "whataboutism" is when mentioning America in a conversation explicitly about comparing America and China is considered it.

Also, I'd love to hear what lie you think I fabricated.

Anyone still trying to pedal the “secret Uyghur genocide” nonsense at this point, long after the Western media has given up on it, and with Isreal showing us what an actual genocide of a captive Muslim population looks like, is either knowingly lying or terminally brainwashed.

Imagine have having to go back 45 years and multiple administration, to an event where rioters were burning police alive, to find an example of the government cracking down too hard on criticism.

You sure as shit don't have to do that in America.

Ultimately, anyone in the proletariat is closer to being on your side than any billionaire.

Nah, American "left" liberals definitely need to learn that there's a while spectrum of political beliefs to the left of them, and that anti-capitalism exists in general

Eh, the Chinese government is more responsive to criticism than western ones.

China is presenting an alternative to liberal democracy

Based China.

If she treated "her people" pretty well, she wouldn't be a billionaire.

The super wealthy are, by definition, not on your side.

If you believe that “authoritarian” is a well defined or meaningful term and not just a snarl word created during the cold war to equivocate communists and Nazis, I'd say it's questionable whether you're still on the left.

authoritarianism and far-left are mutually exclusive.

You're correct, believing that "authoritarian" is a well defined or meaningful term and not just a snarl word created during the cold war to equivocate communists and Nazis is incompatible with being far-left

that less about politics and more about capitalist creed

They're the same thing

Wow, you sure pivoted away from the Uyghur genocide conspiracy at mach speed. Good attempt to change the topic though; the idea of counting famine deaths from 60 years ago as an example of recent blood letting is so absurd it almost got me.

the Uyghuirs in China

Imagine thinking the situation I'm Xinjiang, which, even if all of the nonsense claims made by the far right lunatics like Adrian Zenz were true, still hasn't resulted in any deaths, is worse than the millions upon millions of bodies that the USA left in its wake.

so it will never work as history proved multiple times.

What the fuck does it mean for a system to "work"? Real world attempts at communism lead to the most rapid and widespread improvements in human welfare in human history, if it didn't "work", then literally no system every has or ever can. But I'm going to assume you get around this by holding a massive double standard where only communism is expected to produce a perfect utopia or else be permanently declared a failure and impossible.

On paper it is wonderful idea (it truly is),

What exactly do you think communism is, on paper or otherwise? Do you actually know what communists believe, or just what anti communists tell you we believe?

You could just be honest and admit that you've got no rebuttal to their extremely thorough and in depth post, but you're too stubborn to consider changing your beliefs anyway. Not this "agree to disagree" cop out.

Due to them just wanting to sell a PR stunt and clearly doing incompetent due diligence

Nah, they knew. There's no way a guy who "fought in WW2 against the Russians" made it that far without at least someone going "who exactly is this guy, and who did he fight for?"

It was testing the waters.

So am I a "Russia Lover" or a "Professional forum troll"? Or are these just pointless insults because you can't tolerate the idea that people disagree with you?