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  • Hideo Kojima was right.

    He predicted all of this in MGS2.

    "Nobodies ever invalidated, but nobody is ever right either." Referring to how you can pick and choose what you want to believe and find no shortage of information on the internet to support or debunk it.

  • then the government has murdered a completely innocent person for no reason, and nothing can be done to ever make that right.

    So... wouldn't the same thing occur for innocent people who die in prison? Nothing can ever be done to make it right. It's the same as sentencing them to death, only much slower and more expensive.

    In a perfect legal system, I think most people would be okay with the death penalty for the most heinous crimes.

    I don't know. I see most people against the death penalty saying that they don't support the death penalty because of some lofty "the government has no right to kill its citizens" principle. Not really based on anything, but it 'sounds nice' so I guess people go for it.

    So given that, it’s much much cheaper to just keep people locked up, and it saves us a lot of money.

    It doesn't need to be. It's at least possible to execute people for a cheaper price than imprisoning them. We just choose not to do it.

  • then locking them up indefinitely still accomplishes this

    The problem is an issue of cost. It's impossible to imprison someone for decades at a lower rate than executing them.

    Executions are expensive, but they don't need to be. He mentioned the "appeal process," when I then said should be the same regardless of the punishment.

  • So like... why should there be a different appeal process for capital punishment vs. anything else?

    Isn't guilty guilty? Shouldn't you have the same avenues of appeal, regardless of what the punishment is?

    If that's the case, then wouldn't it be just as expensive to go through the appeal process for capital punishment as anything else?

  • Yeah, but that doesn't mean every innocent person in prison for life is going to get exonerated before they die.

    The argument that "the death penalty should be abolished because some innocent people are convicted" doesn't hold any water because innocent people can be convicted with life imprisonment as well and die before being found innocent. Does that mean we shouldn't sentence people to life in prison?

    Which brings me back to my previous point: it's acceptable to imprison innocent people for life, but not to execute them. At least in your minds.