blue_berry @ blue_berry @lemmy.world

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Beyond that, if it were truly successful, I think, or would hope, that it would bring about a true democratisation of the internet, where people could truly feel like they personally own a part of it and contribute to other parts as a collective.

Now we are talking!

images of monuments of avatars will be added to a blockchain for someone who kept the peace between instances that wanted to defederate each other

Media outlets would try to stay neutral and describe it from the meta-perspective (no pun intended), but would have hard time doing so. The New York Times would write long, interesting articles describing clashes between instances, media observers would analyse the impact that it will have on matters of societal debate new, words from the fediworld would be introduced into daily language like "you sound like someone from the opposite end of the fediverse", "defederate yourself" or "build your own instance then!" etc. etc.

Same here with TwitterX :(

Thanks for the link, looks interesting

I think its really a pity that the pirate party lost its steam, because it was left and also really anti-authoritarian (at least I think). However, I think the Fediverse could become political or at least societal really relevant, because I think there is a strong interrelation between how our social networks are build, therefore how we act in them and from that how we act as social beings in general. I think federated social networks could have a positive effect here and also maybe give the pirate party some steam again.

Right but I wouldn't say its seen as such in the general discourse of society (at least not yet). Maybe that could change more in the next years?

I'm more on the side of getting Fediverse out of the niche eventually

Ok no, the name sucks but instances could be renamed to treetops maybe

New Name: Rio, New Story: We are all birds, Larry is with us, New Name for Instances: Treetops

"Rio, the Twitter-platform where Birds are free to chose their Treetops"

What do you think?

Birds don’t usually use nests as a hub through which they communicate with others. They also don’t use nests as a social meeting point. They use them to lay eggs in and raise their young there.

Would treetops be a better analogy maybe? That could also be a cool new name.

I don't think people realize this but the Fediverse could be a thriving place for creatives. Why not use that to polish its brand and vice versa attract new artists to the Fediverse by this?

They could just be called "Tweets"

I think we should use the word Twitter consciously independent from Musk’s weird “Everything”-platform but as a more general term to describe these types of social media platforms. The truth is that the idea behind the word “Twitter” had nothing to do with the actual platform a long time ago. The common story now is that Elmo bought Twitter and killed it – or thought he did (which implies that he even could) but it was never his to kill, because ideas life forever. Good old Barbie wisdom. All he did was destroy a platform he bought. And also, micro-blogging just sounds dull and doesn’t even feel like what happens on these platforms. Whether you are using Threads or X or Rio, it doesn’t matter, what you are doing there is the same: you tweet. Just with better or worse moderation. As other noted before, the word tweeting will not just go away with the end of one platform. It will stay and the idea attached to it. The only question is which platform realizes the dream the most satisfactory and I still think the Fediverse has a good shot.

At the end of the day marketing is just about telling stories, humans always did that it wasn't like invented by big corps. I just think Mastodon is really bad at telling stories.

I don't necessarily think copy old Twitter. Just use some ideas (birds) and develop them further with the idea of interoperability which makes it unique. That's exactly what Mastodon has done in the technical squere.

You also would need to change the name to, e.g. Rio

So you want to unilaterally rebrand Mastodon because Twitter has no bird anymore? Do you seriously think the success of twitter came from the bird, and that bird is what’s missing for Mastodon?

I do think the bird was iconic and contributed to the success of Twitter yes

Birds don’t usually use nests as a hub through which they communicate with others. They also don’t use nests as a social meeting point. They use them to lay eggs in and raise their young there.

Fair point. Although "Instances" is also not a very handy concept. I still like nests more.

There are many issues holding back the fediverse. A lack of birds is not one of them.

I don't get why along with the discussion of technical issues (which happens plentyful here) there can't be a discussion about marketing with everybody saying: we don't have time for this. I think the marketing of Mastodon (not Lemmy, I think the Lemmy branding is really cute) is mostly terrible. And that has nothing to do with thinking like big-corps. Its also part of the user experience and on-boarding. Its too complicated about the things it shouldn't be complicated about (concept of instances) and doesn't support people where its actually complicated (choosing instances).

I take that into consideration - I mean its also a bit of wishful thinking and advertisment. It should be that easy, right?

He never moved out is all ;)

Thanks :)

Tbh I actually stopped watching after the first season🙈 This one was awesome though.