blue_berry @ blue_berry @lemmy.world

Coder, Artist, Blogger (https://fungiverse.wordpress.com/, https://philpape

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Its from snapchat, it was once a unique feature of them to encourage people to make more authentic, spontanious posts. Because they are deleted after a certain time, people (at least in theory) don't think too much about making them.

Ha ha, good one

How could the open metaverse be better integrated into the Fediverse?

Interesting idea. Who would be setting the standards? Some neutral committee? W3C?

I'm not sure because that could be a feature of some instances: we have chronological timelines come to us! Would instances without eventually win? Not necessarily, right? So I don't think that to be a necessity

I don't now what you mean with h****n tbh

Condescending to whom?

Edit: ok, in my circle, people have problems to understand federation and what's actually the merits of it in a practical sense. If you only know people that understand it quickly anyways, don't send it to them

I'm the same but the general user doesn't want to worry about this kind of stuff. They want to sign up to an instance, probably based on a recommendation by a friend, and have a good time. And if they don't, they change to another one. The algorithm would just blur into the whole experience of an instance.

Which would make it important that the default would be something with no tweaks

No necessarily. Just let it federate.

Maybe you could even subscribe to other’s sorting configuration.

You mean subscribing to algorithms of other instances? Really interesting idea but I doubt that it would be a good idea security-wise.

Are they labeled this way in other social media networks?

My experience on Mastodon was never really satisfying. Most of what I see are post with one or mostly zero engagements from other peopel and that's just boring.

Got me there. But this one does a slightly different angle

I would one up that suggestion : what could be awesome would be to allow users to choose which sorting algorithm they use, and possibly tweak it. This would allow people to share the sorting logic they like, and there would be no trust issue, since you can verify the logic is respected by changing it.

Bluesky already implemented that. I think its a cool concept although most users will just stick to the default one

Ignoring the fact that having a proper recommendation AI for every single user would be environmentally disastrous, it would also place much more burden on the ones hosting instances. Keep in mind that most instances are hosted by people who do not earn anything from them and that many bigger instances already had to rent bigger servers because of the influx of people. Adding computationally expansive algorithms in the mix would just increase the cost for the volunteers on top of signing the death of some smaller instances run on a tight budget.

Ok, I didn't think of that :(

It would also be prone to recreating the SEO mess that we can see today on social medias like youtube where, if you want to grow your community, satisfying the algorithm becomes more important than the actual content of your posts.

I think federation should solve that right? If an instance has to aggressive algorithms it gets defederated and people leave.

However, I would have no issues with an algorithm that a user of an instance could run on their devices and tweak to their liking. This solution would probably be less convenient but would avoid most of the mess.

That would be cool

But you aren't anyway because the post that go into it depend on the people you follow. If you have an transparent algorithm that you like it doesn't change anything about that. It might just be a more enyoable experience if you choose your algorithm right.

I loved that, really got me thinking ... especially the first paragraph I never thought in this direction before

Aka "the Birth of Skynet". Let's maybe avoid that.

I thought in the direction of location-based technology like Pokemon Go. Maybe this goes in the same direction? Could maybe be a basis for it. That's also what the idea of the metaverse to me: if you get rid of the VR stuff its an infrastructure for location-based services/technology.

Point well made. I'm actually a bit embarrassed because I'm a programmer myself and should know this kind of stuff :D

It would be nice to be able to access your local/neighborhood instance instead of the Facebook group

You mean local going into the direction of the metaverse-idea? That would be pretty neat (I mean metaverse without VR/AR)