belit_deg @ belit_deg @lemmy.world

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There can be an unlimited no. of connections (or peers). Remember the bittorrent days, where you could seed to and download files from many peers simultaneously? You can do the same with data streams, f.ex. video and audio. Try Keet if you want to see a practical example.

We don't need data centres to share files, chat, do video calls, live streaming, etc.

If I'm having a video meeting p2p instead of microsoft teams running in the cloud, that would reduce power consumption, not increase it.

How about reducing our dependence on data centres by using software that is more peer to peer and local first etc?

Of course some data centres have legitimate use cases, such as big data analysis on weather and climate data etc, but building huge data centres for social media and running everything in the cloud is silly from an environmental perspective

Reminds me of this classic

Luckily some people actually do! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-yzFxpQLgs

PostmarketOS is not quite there yet to be daily driveable imo, I'm tinkering with it on a Oneplus 6T. But some enthusiasts do daily drive it - and it's getting better and better!

P2P + IoT could be great for safety and privacy. We should just remove the middle men (datacentres, servers) so that data travels between the devices you own, and not via some data vampire trying to get in the way.

Just try and see for yourself. Like I said, only tried Keet. Features

• Share files as big as you like, 2m, 2g, 2t, doesn't matter
• Windows, linux, ios, android
• Groups, dm's, broadcast feed
• No phone number or email needed, add by alias/link/qr
• Unlimited call quality since theres no server in between or throttling
• Share emojis, gifs, videos (no stickers or self-destruct atm)

I've been using Keet for a couple of months now, really like it. Still in beta, but you can ask questions to the devs in the open chat rooms and they actually give you sound answers

Also there's Jami which looks good, but haven't tested it

Depends what you use it for

Update: I just came across Jami, which actually seems to check all the boxes! Libre, open source, videocalls/conferences, unrestricted traffic/quality, secure, p2p, available on all major platforms, etc etc. Even additional functionality such as recording.

Time to do some testing! Also, thanks for all the info in previous post

Many people immediately lose interest the second they see the word "crypto".

Sure, I've never bought any crypto and don't plan on doing it either.

But can some of you please get more specific about the reasons why, though? Is absolutely everything about it bad across the whole board, or are some currencies or subgroups worse than others? After all, there are many different implementations, and some are more energy demanding than others.

I ask because I'm genuinely curious and don't know much about it.

Absolutely, people still need money. So P2P would not solve that bit, but at least the donations can go directly towards content creation rather than having to cover server costs as well.

Maybe a silly idea, but what about a P2P-based video hosting! Hear me out:

We have more computing power and bandwith in our homes than ever before. We know that sharing data and files via P2P works, is resiliant against attacks, and scales really well.

No server costs mean that people could support creators by seeding the content to other peers. One cool thing about that would be seeing how you are making a difference, in real time.

Now this is an interesting idea! We have more computing power and bandwith at our homes than ever before, and use only a fraction of it.

I would happily support Wikipedia, openmaps and other projects by seeding their data.

In could even be more fun and motivating to do, since you could see how you are making a difference in real time, as opposed to donations.

I want to communicate with others in a way that is privacy friendly, gives a good user experience and gives me control of my data. Tox seems good, but most of my friends and family have iphones, and none of the clients support that. Today they use Whatsapp, Messenger, etc. Signal would be a big improvement, but as far as I can tell it is still centralized and wants your phone number.

Maybe XMPP can work, I will check that out.

P2P caught my interest because of the possibilities that opens up when you remove the middle-man/server (even better call quality, no file size limits). But it doesn't have to be P2P - I'm just a fan of "local first", decentralization and democratization of technology in general.

I already listed my reasons for wanting to try out/use it, and they have nothing to do with crypto or micropayments.

If you can name alternatives with similar functionality made by people who are not affiliated with crypto, I'm all ears. Briar seems great for journalists and activists etc, but it is too limited to be used as a mainstream messenger for keeping in touch with friends and family. Seems like all you can do is send text and emojis, no video chat or photos.

Another interesting option https://holesail.io/

Yes, there are exceptions (that's why I wrote "often";)

Windows mobile had a great UX, I still miss it today! I thought they dropped support for it years ago?

I don't find it surprising at all. The menus are often designed as kafka-esque with dark patterns all over, hiding toggles in submenu after submenu to make you go for the default setting (see privacy settings on facebook, notification settings on android). Then the app updates, the setting is somehow reverted, and you're back to square one. No wonder people give up.