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Edit- Retracting my statement as I read your reply as "justice system" not "political system."

I shouldn't be awake.

I don't buy personal electronics, phone cases, or other items in black if I have the option. Not quite as rigorously I've stopped buying black or dark clothing where possible. Decades of buying everything in black or darker shades as the default and at some point I realized it's pretty damn bland and makes everything harder to find if lost.

I think a lot of them do see it, but he pisses off the libs and seems to be promising to hurt the people they want to be hurt, so they are OK with that.

I mean, the folks complaining about woke aren't the same folks worried about fascism, it's not like you've called out some contradiction.

And he will face no consequence for it.

I wouldn't even legitimize this bullshit pseudoscience theory by rebutting it.

I get angry all over again every time this fucker's name comes up.

Remember the disbelief in the first few days? Look how fucking many are defending this killer's house!

I admit I was semi-consciously thinking of sweepers in curling when I wrote that.

Woohoo!

Here's an organization that studies and categorizes Coup d'État against a specific set of criteria.

Here is their statement about Jan 06.

That statement provides links to their methodology and dataset, as well as other details.

Here is an excerpt:

The Cline Center’s Coup d’État Project is the world’s largest global registry of failed and successful coups. The Cline Center defines a coup as an “organized effort to effect sudden and irregular (e.g., illegal or extra-legal) removal of the incumbent executive authority of a national government, or to displace the authority of the highest levels of one or more branches of government.” To be categorized as a coup, an event must meet the following criteria (which are detailed at greater length in the Coup d’État Project codebook):

There must be some person or persons who initiated the coup.

The target of the coup must have meaningful control over national policy.
There must be a credible threat to the leaders' hold on power.
Illegal or irregular means must be used to seize, remove, or render powerless the target of the coup.
It must be an organized effort.

Summary

Using the Cline Center’s Coup d’État Project definitions, the storming of the US Capitol Building on January 6, 2021 was an attempted coup d’état: an organized, illegal attempt to intervene in the presidential transition by displacing the power of the Congress to certify the election. In terms of the type of coup attempt, the complex nature of this event leads it to be categorized as both an attempted auto-coup and as an attempted dissident coup, reflecting the separate activities of distinctive actors involved in the event.

IIRC Compiz was a fork of Beryl or the other way around. I could be wrong though.

Last I checked you can still do the cube in kwin under plasma.

How many years did they spend sweeping the ground ahead of Trump and his cronies to support them and bring us to where we are today - only to act like they are taking some principled stand in quitting now?

They made this bed.

Greg K-H is the presumed successor and there's no reason to think he wouldn't do the same.

Fair enough but I'll keep my reply short for now -

We all know agree that Hamas are terrorists. Of course I condemn the attack, but I don't expect terrorists to behave in a way I'm happy with.

But Israel holds far more power and has more options. They are the vastly superior entity by every metric. They are also a member of the United Nations, and can reasonably be expected to conduct themselves better than acknowledged terrorist groups. Israel had a great justification to respond to the attack. They don't have a justification for going as far as they are.

Quoting myself from earlier -

Hamas didn't change the discussion, Israel did. I came into the news on Oct 07 with "Fucking Hamas" vibes, but that very quickly changed to, "Wow OK, Israel isn't fucking around." then "Woah Israel OK, maybe use a little more care there, I get that you were attacked but -- WOAH ISRAEL WTF ARE YOU DOING?"

Lemmy is the only place where I see people being like “butchering civilians is okay as long as it was done to further their goal”. It’s real weird to see that kind of rhetoric not only accepted but upvoted.

Understanding why Hamas might feel they are justified isn't the same as thinking it's OK. I don't condone what Hamas did - but I absolutely condemn how far Israel is going in response.

I also object to the idea that wanting Israel to stop is akin to antisemitism.

But let’s hear them, why “hide” it?

LOL ok you sure got me there. Here's your chance to prove me wrong.

Stop now. Say "hey, we got our pound of flesh (and about 2000 more pounds too), let's stop and figure out a path forward."

And since Kbin doesn't seem to want to let me upload inline images today:

https://i.imgur.com/XwHVxrT.png

Thanks for pointing that out, I linked and quoted it below.

LOL Hamas didn't change the discussion, Israel did. I came into the news on Oct 07 with "Fucking Hamas" vibes, but that very quickly changed to, "Wow OK, Israel isn't fucking around." then "Woah Israel OK, maybe use a little more care there, I get that you were attacked but -- WOAH ISRAEL WTF ARE YOU DOING?"

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/what-was-hamas-thinking

As recently as 2020, Hamas committed to participate in Palestinian national elections; this plan fell apart not because of Hamas but because of the Western-backed Palestinian Authority, whose leaders denounced Israel’s refusal to allow elections in East Jerusalem.

Had these apparent gestures of compromise all been part of a ruse to buy time while Hamas prepared a brutal assault? Abu Marzouk insisted that these efforts at negotiation and coexistence had been genuine. He blamed Israel and the Western powers for thwarting Hamas’s overtures. He told us, “We rolled down all of the pathways to get some of our rights—not all of them. We knocked on the door of reconciliation and we weren’t allowed in. We knocked on the door of elections and we were deprived of them. We knocked on the door of a political document for the whole world—we said, ‘We want peace, but give us some of our rights’—but they didn’t let us in.” He added, “We tried every path. We didn’t find one political path to take us out of this morass and free us from occupation.”

There is some evidence to support Abu Marzouk’s narrative. In recent years, Hamas had appeared willing to coexist with the Jewish state. But, as Abu Marzouk acknowledged to us, Hamas also never abandoned core demands such as full Palestinian independence and the right of all Palestinian refugees to return to their homeland. Nor did the group relinquish its weapons. “But we didn’t mislead anyone,” he told us. “We never hid these slogans.”

I feel awful for the involved kids, but look forward to what should be a slam dunk lawsuit.