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  • Before some disingenuous comment about chicken or the egg starts flooding this thread, these people were already refugees due to Israel's action of driving them out of their houses by bombing them in the first place, and then bombing them again in the refugee camp, if that's not a war crime and precedent of next generation of Palestinians hating Israel, I don't know what else is.

  • There is a crackdown/entrapment going on, and many people who took part in Pro-Palestinian demonstrations are then ID and catalogued. Palestinian flags on apartment windows and student dormitories are taken down by police. Not to mention, Palestinian flag that was painted in a shop's garage next to my house and has been there for literally 10 years, was painted over by the city government today. There is a concentrated effort to silence any Palestinian voice, and Germans are just as "clueless" like they were back in the 1940s.

  • I don't think the war is good by any means but damn, someone came into your home, killed your friends and family and you're not supposed to do a thing about it ? What am I missing here ?

    I think you just defined Palestinian position.

  • Me thinks less of what you think, and the 21st was also not peaceful but due to what happened on previous days, lawyers had a court order of peaceful assembly again, and didn't back down, and let the demonstration happen. The irony of other people gaslighting me and telling me what happened when I witnessed it myself. Were you there at Frankfurtdemonstration? You are free to look, social Media is full of these things.

  • You wrote a whole lot of words to just say that the government can do whatever. The protest on the 20th of October was specifically granted permission from the courts on the 19th, a day earlier. Half an hour before the protest, Polizei announced that it is now verboten (when? where?) and started arresting people and IDing them, the people who are unaware of changes and coming to attend a permissible demonstration. How isn't that sketchy? That seems like an operation to identify pro-Palestinian people and intimidate/harass them, and actually follow through by contacting their universities and work.

    I have been in Germany for around 2 decades as a dark skinned person, don't tell me the scope of Nazi infiltration in the German military and police. I face them everyday. It's common news among everyone, only willfully ignorant ones try to overlook it, and later will cry after their fascism gets discovered, just like from the Holocaust documentary when, German citizens were first taken to see concentration camps, and started crying "we didn't know". Ja right, gimme a break.

  • Duh. This censoring is why antisemitic conspiracy theories take hold in the first place. I understand moderation, but if you flag any discussion that goes against mainstream narrative as extremist, all that is left is an echo chamber. It's right out of 1984 playbook. I am wondering how long before Lemmy will be called an antisemitic platform for even posting news like that?

  • Yeah, the law this vague is purposely designed to be abused by the government. German police are already trying Nazi tactics at this point. The pro Palestinian rally at Frankfurt, they literally isolated young people with Palestinian flags, took pictures of people and their ID cards, and suddenly these people now have started getting problems in their schools,universities and jobs, even when they never shared anything political themselves. Germany and Fascism is a story for the ages.

  • Yeah, downvoting cuz of American partisan politics. As a non-american, this whole approach to politics like supporting your fav sports team baffles me. Here in Europe, we try to catch politicians lies, especially when in government. Americans defend their politicians lying to the public. It can't be more bizarre than that. Of course Biden lies with every chance he gets. He is just as rotten as any republican before, but since he is blue (democrat), let's ignore all that lying. Same approach US takes when dealing with Israel.

  • Israel humiliated Biden during Obama's term when Biden went to visit Israel and suggested in soft words that they don't expand illegal settlements. Israel basically said screw you in the press conference, and Biden took it like an obedient slave. Really showed the world who holds his leash.

  • It's ridiculous at this point. They actually tried to walk back their original claim that they successfully attacked a Hamas group at a hospital, but then pics/videos of children dying popped up, and people were like it is a war crime, so the narrative switched and it was Hamas who bombed the hospital, and these fake verifications started popping up. Propaganda is at full swing here.