a lil bee 🐝 @ alilbee @lemmy.world

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You responded to the wrong person. I can reply here though, no worries.

You're reading that 34% stat incorrectly. It is not saying that 34% of young people view that as the most important issue, they are saying that when asked about it when put head to head with another issue from that list, it only won 34% of the time. I believe that difference also mostly accounts for your 2nd/3rd choice dynamic as well, because it would have also been paired with those other topics and lost accordingly. Look at the other scores on that list. It's clear that this conflict is not the primary driver of the election season right now.

Now, I'd love to see more stats, but between this and that recent Gallup poll, I'm going to start needing affirmative evidence in the other direction before I just start making leaps. For what it's worth, I also find this conflict heinous. Israel is committing horrific war crimes. Global policy never outperforms domestic issues though. Caring about your own survival is human nature, so I kind of expect it.

Keep on advocating for Palestine and Gaza. I will be as well. Just don't expect to be able to hold the election over their heads as leverage, because it's becoming increasingly clear that leverage doesn't exist.

It's not though, unfortunately.

The biggest thing Biden could do is focus on domestic economics. On top of that, please do realize that even specifically for those under 35, it's 60/40 for even sympathizing with Palestine in the conflict. That's all separate from it being the right thing to do, which I also agree with. But the math is not looking good for this being the cornerstone issue for Democrats or even the youth electorate.

That's not even remotely what trickle down economics is.

What a ridiculous way to compute value. Do you really think jobs are the only thing bought with that money? It brings money into the community. Those workers take that money and spend it at local businesses, driving the local economy up. Why do you think cities fall over each other to court these companies?

You keep trying to drive back to the genocide, but listen to what the people above you are telling you: the populace cares more about the economy and jobs than they do about Palestine. Last I checked (and I don't have a source for you, sorry, just something I read in an article recently.) about half of Americans find Israel sympathetic in this conflict and about 30% find Palestine sympathetic. It's obviously much more skewed toward Palestine for young people, but they are also notoriously the most fickle and demanding demographic.

The left is trying to win a noble fight with leverage it does not have, which is sadly their modus operandi. If you want a path that is set in reality and reduces the pain decades of foreign policy have constructed, vote Biden and vote as left as possible downticket to create an ecosystem where Congress can get the left what it wants and needs. I'd be happy to be wrong, but I do not believe there is anything else possible to be done in the current geopolitical scheme.

EDIT: I did find the Gallup poll. Gallup. You'll have to scroll past the opinions on the PA specifically.

Subnautica: Way Above Zero

Oh, oh! I have a more recent example of a cringy militant atheist now, do you need a link? Here ya go.

Tunic is phenomenal and I cannot recommend it enough. It's one of those experiences that I highly recommend going into blind. Even some of the smallest bits of info can ruin parts of the experience. If you're into puzzle games that require some out of the box thinking, just give it a shot!

I'm not disputing that, but the meme kinda is? I guess what I'm getting at is asking where the line is between gross overwork grind culture and taking pride in your work and possibly working a bit more as an investment in that regard. Other people have had some good thoughts here. I think it's just about watching yourself and your motivations for working to ensure you haven't fallen into the trap.

Yeah I know about that, like I indicated in my comment up there. How in the world do conservatives factor into that situation? That's what the commentor above said and I'm curious.

I'm in the same boat. Hell, sometimes I can even get into the groove on something useless. It's more for me though, not for my employer. Wouldn't the "grindset" people say the same though?

What in the world happened? I played a lot in the first few weeks and remember the Creek situation as just being some people who played that planet constantly. How tf did real world politics come into that situation specifically?

I agree with this in principle (and I know it's just a meme and I'm taking it too seriously) but how do we still allow for people who take pride in their trade or craft, even if the majority value has been stolen by a megacorp? I work for one of those huge soulless corps. Sometimes, every once in a great while, I enjoy working on something I've built. I'll put in more hours than I have to just because I'm having a good time or whatever. I guess that's still separate from the "being on my grindset" culture of doing that all the time though.

Idk, thinking out loud here.

I'm still pissed about you not getting an answer to this question. It's upsetting that you can post nonsense that isn't even related to the issue at hand, but that seems to be pointed in the right direction, and that's enough for some people. I guess that's a good sign of the times.

I agree with everything you said, genuinely. Ignoring societal factors would be foolish and expecting personal responsibility to be the deciding factor is naive. All that said, to ignore it entirely leaves you with an incomplete view as well. People have the potential to be more than our nature and circumstances dictate us to be.

To address your point directly, I don't expect anyone to do anything. I do though believe that personal responsibility is a core element of any non-autocratic political system. I will ask for it, because my fellow citizens belong to the same government I do and I have a vested interest in it working. I'll also be doing what I can to improve those contextual circumstances we mentioned earlier. Expect, though? No, I really don't.

So, the same company that allegedly had a man shoot himself a few weeks back is now so worried about making it look like an accident, that they're willing to use a method that has about the same success rate as pushing him off a bicycle? Not buying it. Frankly, it's so absurd on its face that the burden of proof is overwhelming.

Sometimes people die. Sometimes they die with unfortunate timing. Again, the suicide one is sus, investigate that all day. Leave this person's family and memory alone, they deserve peace.

Right, but it would be a bizarre choice of weapon. The odds that some agency gave this man covid so he would go to the hospital to get a form of pneumonia that would then kill him is Qanon level thinking.

I'm not sure what you're talking about, but we're talking about a bill that didn't exist until only recently.

This is getting really irritating today. This and the Boeing whistleblower death. People seem to think that just because they're on the right side of an issue, they can just make shit up or not do their due diligence in looking into things. Thanks for correcting it.

Sure, I'm not assigning any blame in my original comment. I agree with your comment, but I also still think we have a personal responsibility to look into these things and be critical. Conspiracy theories can be a failure of the state and of the individuals.

I really hate it when this sort of thing happens. If you read into this particular death, it looks like a tragic series of unfortunate events and not anything nefarious. The earlier whistleblower death looked truly suspicious and I don't fault people for that one, but this one just isn't. Now this family is going to be dealing with a conspiracy and hounded by insane people while trying to grieve their loved one. I wish people could really look into these things instead of just reacting because Boeing has been sketchy lately.