YaBoyMax @ YaBoyMax @programming.dev

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Hey, that sounds familiar!

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The ROC has undergone a pretty big shift in its form of governance and general culture in the last ~50 years. Yes, their current claims are a remnant of their past as the government of mainland China, but given that changing their official stance runs the risk of provoking the PRC they're effectively immutable for the time being.

A disfunctional system isn't the same as a totalitarian one. Both are bad, yes, but they're not one and the same.

I'm sorry, but there's no way you can possibly equate the US government to the CCP without arguing in bad faith. The decidedly un-totalitarian nature of the US government is exactly why it's basically not functioning right now. There's plenty of valid criticism there, but to draw any sort of comparison to the Chinese form of government is insane.

Texas is de fact and de jure a part of the United States. It's not a valid comparison and you know it.

There are firsthand accounts of human rights abuses taking place against the Uyghur people on Xinjiang. The Chinese fucking government reported a 60% decline in birthrates in certain Uyghur-majority regions in the province between 2015 and 2018. If that doesn't scream forced sterilization then I don't know what does.

Also, cultural genocide is still genocide definitionally.

Do you disagree with either of those observations? They seem fairly indisputable to me.

The status quo has broad support because it keeps the peace, and the Taiwanese people generally don't want to fight a war against China. That doesn't equate to the majority of the Taiwanese people holding the view that they're a part of the PRC and it should be fairly obvious that they don't believe nor want that.

I was poking fun at your sarcastic comment; I don't genuinely believe that China nor the US controls the UN any more (or any less) than their role in the geopolitical landscape would dictate.

The ROC's territorial claims are a side effect of the PRC's stance on Taiwan. I don't remember the exact details but essentially the PRC has previously declared that it would interpret any change in the ROC's territorial claims as a declaration of war. It's a matter of pragmatism.

The end result here being the non-acknowledgement of Taiwan's de facto sovereignty, which is decidedly not a reflection of reality. I dare you to tell a Taiwanese person that they live in a dependent province of the PRC because other countries serving their own interests said so and see how they respond.

No, but this type of rhetoric goes hand in hand with Chinese nationalism and I frankly detest nationalism in any form. It spurs non-constructive, bad-faith discourse and in more extreme cases leads to literal genocide. Nazi Germany, present-day Israel, the Xinjiang province... The list goes on and on.

I wouldn't argue that it's a stooge at all. Yeah, the US holds an outsized influence on its constituent states, but that's only because it holds an outsized influence over geopolitics on general. The same goes for China and Russia (the latter maybe moreso prior to the Ukraine war).

To your point, I think he also said "deathcon 3".

Lol

You made an assumption and you've yet to expound on how you justified it beyond some vague assertion about American political discourse. Give me something to introspect on, then, for crying out loud.

I understand what you're saying here and I agree that that's what's going here, but making something "diplomatically palatable" is for all intents and purposes equivalent to appeasement and (in my view) automatically makes any other claims made subject to suspicion.

Yes, but as you know in many cases it's for purely diplomatic reasons since acknowledging Taiwan's sovereignty means basically severing ties with the PRC, and most countries do far too much trade with it to make that in any way appealing.

I mean, you're not that far off given the PRC's permanent seat on the UN's security council, but you know full well that most states and the WHO have a vested financial interest in not pissing off the CCP.