VirtualOdour @ VirtualOdour @sh.itjust.works

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Also he made them go through an elaborate set of rules to leave no odors or other signs, there's no way they didn't know what they were doing.

Facebook was like that for ages, posts about the try that in a small town guy outselling Taylor swift, woke celebrities begging to work with kid rock but bring denied, Disney announcing they're firing all their diversity hires... it's like they're living in a totally different reality.

And there will be people who consider themselves good people who wont vote and will just let it happen because they can't be bothered or think they're above it.

Yeah, it's sad because I had big hopes but the community here has worked against any hope of making it decent - it's too confusing for a beginner to know where to sign up, if they do it's a struggle to find active communities amid all the clones, and then if they try to participate all they're get is abuse and downvotes if their opinion is a letter off from the accepted opinion.

I would accept difficulties if people were at least trying to make it better but there's never been any effort to work together improving things, no community get together or shared effort - just insults and bickering.

The assumptions of how china thinks in this thread are hilarious, so many people just making stuff up because it allows them to feel superior.

Especially you throwing big numbers around which you clearly don't have any concept of what they represent, you saw memes that china killed 50 million people and instead of having any curiosity you just use it as a crude cudgel and swing meaninglessly. It's sad but also kind of funny to me, if you had any concept of history you could have written a post that makes sense but instead you just want to find an excuse to call people stupid - is that not ironic to you, calling out people for stupid politics when you know full well you've just invented your argument based on zero actual understanding of what you're talking about? Isn't that a far better example of stupid politics for stupid people?

There's plenty of good reasons to call this statement as its presented stupid but you missed them all and went for something stupid.

Because they don't like other people being around, it's a simple choice if you want to live somewhere quiet then you move somewhere quiet you don't have the option of telling everyone else that they can't enjoy a beauty spot or city.

Especially when plenty of other people there choose to be there because it's popular.

It's a super complex situation, a large part of our economic crisis is actually because traditionally impoverished nations which we used to exploit freely now have growing economies, education, and workers protections so we're not able to import raw materials so cheaply - even places like C.A.R., Bangladesh and similar have effective government polices focused on improving workers rights and fighting outside corruption - CAR for example has already implemented strong regulation on most it's lithium mines and ongoing processes are tightening up conditions in the remaining areas.

This isn't something we really like to address but it's very significant in global economics and western markets, the math of it all is complex because while we're not able to exploit these areas freely new economies allows for more trade however our western advantage is also now fading so where we once had huge auto markets, monopolies on high-end computer tech and even good steel this just not true anymore as advances in once 3rd world economies and tech makes it possible for world class manifacturing to happen almost anywhere.

Factory automation is actually what's saving us from far worse economic effects of this global rug pull, it used to take several man hours to make products we can now produce in a fraction of a man second. I'll draw some diagrams if you want but a key metric is production potential per capita which is the amount of things that can be made per person, if it takes ten people a day to make one thing then that thing should cost about ten days labour to buy that thing - of course also including the time taken to pack, transport, and all the other requires steps, and each step has its own costs that must be split into the cost, a truck or train journey adds not just the journey but the fraction of the cost of the vehicle and its many parts when split between its lifetime utility...

It's even more complex math when we try to think of the best choice, a real traveling salesman problem, a very expensive train will reduce time and cost per journey so if in its lifetime it gets a lot of use then it'll pay itself back but it it doesn't then we're never recapturing the initial cost. Manufacturing has been churning on this problem for the last few decades, it's the same problem we get when deciding when to launch a trip to the nearest star - the first ship to launch will likely get overtaken by a far more advanced one launched 100 years later. Do you automate now or wait for the next gen tools that cost half as much to install and run?

So to go back to where we were, our easily exploited 3rd world labour force is drying up and so is our access to cheap resources and so is our high-value and luxury goods market - if we weren't able to upgrade our tooling at the same time these markets evolved then it'd take a lot of people just to dig the coal needed to smelt the steel for a car engine and each car, tractor, delivery van would have to reflect that in its price and availability - even in pure communism without inequity the math simply doesn't allow everyone to live well.

Automation has allowed us to drastically lower the time it takes to create things which means someone acting as a worker in that chain should be able to afford a far larger amount of things produced In that economy, if one person can supervise machines making a million resistors a day rather than making one per day by hand then every step in the economy that requires a resistor has the cost of that piece cut to one millionth.

There's a number of reasons this isn't very obvious in our lived experience beside the fact it's offsetting the loss of exploitable poor people, rising living standards is a big one - even just the foods we regularly eat or have the option to eat are wild compared to fifty years ago. We rely on things that are hugely advanced like mobile phones, social media, public transport when previously the only option was to not talk to people or go places unless you're super rich.

There is of course a other obvious reason and that's the abaurd levels of inequality that we accept as normal, not just private jets and yachts but our whole society is structured to afford pointless luxury to some while others have to scrabble just to be alive, this is a form of stratification based on power which happens all through history and often causes old orders to collapse. The people with some economic power use it to exploit those without, in our economy things like increasing property portfolios by using money earned in rent to purchase more rental properties and that sort of behavior but also the increasing focus on luxury goods as that's where the profit is, why make a business targeting poor people when tailoring it to rich people will earn you more? Hence so many absurd and pointless industries have huge budgets but poor people things don't even get tried - those industries benefit from the work of everyone but only benefit the affluent.

I've already written too much but I will say if people learned how amazing open source is and could be then we could solve so.much of the inequality here and globally which would help us poors to enjoy the real benefit of automated manufacturing.

It's like all rhose.facebook memes 'a boy in Switzerland invented a brand new idea to help the disabled, sticks you can use to support your weight when walking!' And the comments are people amazed by it.

I saw one where Finland inventes raised pathways made of wood so people can experience.nature without getting their feet muddy - europe has had raised track ways for at least 6000 years!

Thats a bit of a wild leap. Would you be against using tech to respond rapidly to a gunshot in the school? Like those audio sensors which can pinpoint its location and alert security instantly?

Lemmy users are honestly some of the most troubled and scary people in our society, seriously keep a mental count of how many weirdly violent posts you see on here it's actually unhinged.

And yes I understand this is a joke but my point is someone who sees this joke and reposts it is weird in a troubling way.

Why do you say instead of when describing something that exists and is available? It's not even expensive.

I think what you mean is why is all the focus always on negative uses and never positive and that's because you're on a website with a hate boner for technology, especially ai.

It kinda is a bit if you really look at quality of life changes in the last hundred years, even the last fifty - yes people feel like food is more expensive but a large part of that is diets are far better and more diverse for poor people. We have access to far higher quality stuff and this is a trend that's been going strong since the start of the industrial revolution, do you know anyone that wears the same jute shirt every day? If so its a weird style choice not because they can't spend less than an hours minimum wage to get a new shirt. Want to learn about house flys or rocket engines? I can point you to huge amounts of amazing free resources, it's not too long ago you'd have to walk to the library to get a paragraph in an encyclopedia.

Sure it doesn't feel amazing because we all want more, we want what the current rich have but actually look not that far back in time and we have access to far better things than the wealthy in terms of food, entertainment, and so many things. The rich also have far less power, again its easy to overlook but computer tools have eroded their control of media and government considerably which ironically is part of the reason we're so aware of the existing inequities.

That's not even close to true though, it just makes it obvious you've never been on a building site, in a mine, smelting works, factory or pretty much any traditionally dangerous job.

Creative jobs aren't widely displaced yet, there's the hint of that in the future but as of now it's still an increasing field, especially in content creation and marketing. Manufacturing jobs have been getting replaced rapidly, when my parents were kids a whistle would blow and machinists would flood out the two factories and fill the pubs and streets, now both factories have closed because one factory can make and transport them far cheaper with a thousandth of the workforce. We do have factories in this areas still, they make much more complex things but the majority of their workforce is in the offices because CNC and CV assisted QC replaced the need for people to lug heavy things or twiddle control knobs all day.

I have friends that fucked their back up in their twenties carrying bricks up ladders, this job was common twenty five years ago but is virtually nonexistent now because of automation (largely factory based automation allowing prefab pieces and labour saving tools to out compete people working for minimum wage)

Yes it's a fun and funny thing to say and I understand the sentiment but look at old pathe news reels showing how farming happens and compare them to a modern farm, automation has been helping people avoid backbreaking labour for decades - they don't even drive the tractors on a lot of farms these days.

Yeah, couldn't agree more. He doesn't sound like he even likes women, just feels he should own one and probably wants regular sex (on his terms only). I almost feel guilty writing a post trying to help him.

'I never want to make it obvious'

This is a huge red flag to women, what you're essentially doing is trying to create a power imbalance where you maintain the safe and defended position of acting not interested while they take all the social risk of putting themselves out there. This gives you a much better position in any conversation or disagreement and it allows you to hold the power of humiliation over their head - a situation no one wants to be in.

The fact you're targeting women in this way that you feel are more attractive than you exacerbates it because it makes it seem that you don't really care about them at all and just want to tick the hot gf box.

People often say that women hit on men in happy relationships and this is somewhat true but not because they're horny homewreckers but because the guy has stopped acting creepy and manipulative towards them and just seem like decent normal people. When you say you don't flirt what you mean is difficult to tell because you're obviously targeting these women and talking to them, even asking them out and getting rejected apparently so I don't know what you're actually doing but it's not acting normal, friendly, and like you consider them anything but a target to throw your Pokeball at.

No one, including you, wants to date someone that doesn't make them feel good and add to their lives in a positive and joyful way - in what world does 'you're hotter than me therefore I want you as a possession I can have sex with' make someone feel any of those things? That's the vibe they're getting when you refuse to give them even just flirting, who is going to say 'oh i met this guy, he's cold to me and makes me kinda feel awkward I can't wait to spend more time with him'

Make someone feel good, enjoy spending time with you, and demonstrate that you're the sort of person worth getting to know better - which by the way includes being open to self change and personal improvement. Let them see that they will be happier in a relationship with you than not being in a relationship with you.

And this means also that you have to find someone that will be happier in a relationship with you, women aren't interchangeable and they exist on a much more complex scale than 'hot body = value' which is where your head seems to be stuck, looks are one of the least important parts of a relationship which is lucky for a skinny ballet arms boy like you... you need someone you can talk to, can laugh with, can feel safe with, can grow and explore with.

And yes if you don't want that sort of relationship and want a woman that only cares about outward appearance then get jacked and earn a shit load of money, seems like a miserable life to me but I'm in love with a fat woman (who I admit is very attractive) because we understand each other and support each other and enjoy each other in ways I never even knew possible - we bonded over shared interests, fell in love over long and tender conversations, and worked through difficulties by being honest and caring.

Also we don't really know why they did it, could have been religious or a punishment for all we know

It's just short for charisma, it's nothing new.

I couldn't agree more about the emails though, I paid to join labour here in the uk when they had a leader who seemed to care but all I got for it was endless emails begging for money - I tried to join all the things that said 'have your say' or 'be heard' but none even pretended to be interested or had any form of way for me to give input. The only option I actually found was I could get tickets to a meeting where theoretically at the end I might get a chance to ask a question from the audience...

It really made me aware that they don't actually want to know what people think, either because they have no respect for us or because they know full well that people want things they have no intention of delivering.

We need to move towards having actual digital town squares where people can voice their opinions, personally I want to be able to register my approval or disapproval of policy and politicians changing it if my mind changes - I'm fed up of just being told 'we assume people want this so you'll have to put up with it' or even worse 'we've decided you should want this so you're going to enjoy it!'

It's more than just funding science it's funding education and social systems that enable people to participate, it's a culture of mutual uplift rather than a free for all deathmatch, it's a community that instead of feeling resentment for any success anyone else has shows support and seeks to learn from them.

It's weeks since I saw a thread on lemmy which wasn't attacking and shitting on anyone doing anything, sure government funding is important but it's not the only thing that matters.

Comments like this make .me angry even though I know you can't actually make it happen

the victim is not pressing charges because she is afraid of MAGAfash

Does she say this or are we making it up?

Seems like she's not making a big deal out of it because she's in the army and someone shoving her a bit while rude isn't a big issue in her day?