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Everything is an evil Chinese conspiracy to some people it's genuinely hilarious, like the whole concept of investing in the manufacturing sector to provide an active economy for a developing nation and basic principles like economies of scale are all just sneaky commie lies and actually the global economy is just a chubby yellow man with narrow eyes twiddling his Manchu mustache and laughing evilly about how his plot to flood the world with cheap goods is going to put hardworking mom and pop American corporations out on the street, after only a few more decades of improving everyone's lifestyle with affordable living.

I'd be interested in examples of what he watchs, it's hard to know how to respond otherwise.

I think you're probably worrying too much though, I watch all sorts of junk on YouTube largely because I enjoy finding out how other people think more than it constanrly changing my opinion - sure he's young and doesn't have the same level of awareness as an adult but also nothing in his life will actually matter for about 5 more years so a few bad opinions aren't the end of the world.

When he says 'I don't know' maybe you should believe that's how he really feels, feed into it a bit and as painful as this might be for you admit that you don't know either - life is full of confusing shit and honesty half the stuff I see I don't even know how I feel about it or if it's true, sane, or sensible. I'm sure he knows loads of interesting things going on in the world that you're totally unaware of so let him tell you about it, be interested and accepting while in a non-dogmatic way rasising doubts where appropriate or simply tell a story from your own life that explains your doubts - not like 'I'm old and know better' but more friendly and demonstrating it's normal to not know who to trust or what's valid.

Positive reinforcement of doubt and distrust is important, demonstrate that you understand he's learning about the world and its absurdities and complexities, laugh about some of it WITH him rather than making him feel like you're saying 'the stuff you watch is dumb and you're dumb for watching it' because understanding others is FAR more important in life than knowing the truth about obscure subjects, hard pill to swallow maybe but it's true.

Your seven points you worry about are well and good but media doesn't do that, politicians don't do that, corporations don't do that, life partners and lovers don't do that, friends don't do that, I bet YOU don't do that... To live in this world we've got to learn how to take the important bits and leave the rest, we've got to learn why people do the things they do and that's only possible with a big messy database in our heads of all the different types of people out there.

It sounds from the way you speak like you've given him a good grounding in logical, sensible, and scientifically literate discourse which is great but now his brain yearns to understand more of the world - why is everything so crazy and weird? why do people who seem nice sometimes do crazy and hurtful things? Why does this girl say such odd things, does she like me or hate me? These are questions you can only start to answer by understanding people and things you don't believe in.

I listened to endless craziness like Alex Jones, 5Live, loveline, all sorts of brain rot shit - never once did I think Adam Carolla was anything but [string of words now forbidden] though he was funny, it was fun to listen to and entertaining, I learnt a lot about the world from callers and even Adam though he certainly never did a single one of your seven virtues.

Yes maybe the entertainment is more important than the content of their arguments, being able to know the truth is useful but being able to entertain friends, girlfriends, bosses and authority figures is what can turn a hard life into a great and easy one.

Yes they should but that's largely down to Democrats, if they wanted to have a dialog and offer to pay to have their busses collect them then I doubt the republican senators could refuse from a political standpoint

Where are the plans to make a fair ayatem? Where are the calls to organize peoper transport? All I see is democrats calling it immoral and saying they should stop.

Help them how? You think some Texas town can fix an immigrants life and process them for less than $1800 per head?

The sanctuary cities have resources and infrastructure which texas biarder towns do not, splitting the large numbers of immigrants between them makes sense if those people are going to be living in the community until they're processed. The prior method of keeping them in cages fed on gruel and afforded no humanity is rightfully ruled out so what other option is there?

I agree that it should be better organized, maybe the receiving states should have an open and balanced dialog where they agree to pay for and organize transport themselves to ensure the people are treated with dignity and everything is organized for their arrival.

Six cities that declared themselves sanctuary cities? Surely those are the best places, they actively advertise migrants are welcome.

And you say dumping them but then say they're an economic and cultural benefit, surely if you believe that you think its great thes six democrat cities benefit?

As for the cost, maybe those cities could send their own busses to collect them instead? Would be a strong move politically plus they could be better prepared for their arrival. But yes that's not a huge amount of money for the logistics of moving people, cheaper than housing them all and paying all the other costs in the boarder towns they come from, cities have far more resources and better infrastructure. Though of course it wouldn't be popular for the local politician because as we've seen the sanctuary cities get upset when faced with the reality of large numbers of immigrants.

It's the same here in the UK, multiple BBC channels all disappointing

It's funny that any time these companies are brought up everyone says they're dangerous yet the second one listens to the sorts of studies about negative affects that get quoted here all the time everyone suddenly decides actually its censorship or brainwashing or corporate greed and that it's evidence they're evil...

Scientific studies said this content can harm developing children so they made efforts to mitigate harm, is it really so hard just to say 'oh thats good, well done' and if so then doesn't that tell you a lot about your own motivations?

Because it's not God making the choices it's an algo, God would know what you want bur an algo needs data - if there is a popular video that lots of people who watch content you like watch then it makes sense they see if you're interested.

It does the same with everything, your just notice the stuff you hate more, right wingers claim youtube and Facebook push woke stuff for the exact same reason.

The problem is youribe can only have one page of information and that has to be the front page offering old, new, expected and unexpected content in one easy to view list.

You know what would happen if they had a second list that only showed your subscribed content? Literally no one would click on it and everyone would complain it doesn't exist, they proved this in a test where they had that exact feature on every single person's page since they started but here we still are people complaining that their subscriptions don't always show up on the fyp (algo page)

Not always true, a lot of the time people with serious issues have trouble with smaller issues because they're anxious and stressed but unable to mentally address the larger issues.

The colour of peoples skin does very little to determine their personality or character, this comment is nothing but reinforcing racist thinking that plagues society. Consider just not making race based stereotypes for the betterment of humanity.

Part of the problem with arguments like that is if you say 'trans women are not widely represented in women's jails' they can say 'yeah but the left want to change that with self ID and all the other things they push for' so really the only point you've made in their mind is that its good the people pushing these things aren't in power.

Surely no one can deny that the lefts messaging has been that a trans person should be able to enter any gendered space without question? You never see trans advocates say 'yes creepy men pretending to be women to gain access to female spaces is a legitimate problem which we intend to protect against by...' they say 'its not a problem, will never be a problem and anyone who says it might be is evil and stupid and bad'

Everyone knows a lot of men are creepy, everyone knows that there are rapists who if able to get put into a woman's jail would jump at the chance - if one side is going to pretend these aren't true simply because it makes the rest of their belief on the issue difficult to explain then that's not on the normies who don't accept it without question.

Up until the run up to the election the UK labour party for example pledged self ID legislation would be made law and there was huge outcry from trans advocacy groups when they changed their mind - you can't argue that something you're trying to make happen isn't a problem because it doesn't yet happen.

But the right loves Russia they're super right wing, putin is even offering people free citizenship if they're fleeing 'woke western politocs'

Belligerence to Russia comes largely from the fact they invaded a neighboring nation

Also you can spend thirty seconds as a right winger and have them all tell you that you're great, important, clever, worthwhile, and all those things -- spend twenty years dedicating your adult life to leftwing values and you'll still get spat on by your political peers because your opinion on some obscure issue is 2% different to theirs.

The sad truth is that the right are pandering to homophobia because it's a vote getter for them not because they really care about it.

A huge portion of religious people believe that homosexuality is an especially dangerous sin because it's a social contagion, they see the increased popularity of gay things and the decreased respect for religion as a clear sign that the devil is winning and faithful, godfearing society is collapsing. To an extent they're right, modern views on self determination and respect for others is anathema to Christian society as it's been for over a thousand years - to the faithful it's like saying the sky is pink or fish live in trees.

There are of course now grifters using homophobia to draw people into their political ideologies but it's generally people from homophobic families in homoohobic communities that get drawn into it, it's easy to forget that when you see a twenty something year old kid making homophobic comments it's likely at his age his dad was going 'queer bashing' for fun with his friends and certainly wouldn't have hesitated to beat up a gay person in a bar or in the street if encountered.

Even big artists like Eminem had deeply homophobic messages in his music, now that's backtracked and he's friends with Elton - this isn't entirely because he's grown as a person but because at the start of this century it was unconscionable that rap or hip hop could be anything but homophobic. School kids used the word 'gay' to describe uncool or disliked things so commonly it was even part of my own vocab despite being raised in a progressive and accepting family in a liberal area.

Things have changed so much just in my adult lifetime but it's not universal, a lot of religious and conservative people see the 'gay agenda' exactly as you see the 'homophobic agenda' in that they believe it's political narrative being pushed just to destabilize morally virtuous power structures to allow corrupt and evil people to take power and steal money.

Companies that shoehorn a poorly written gay character into everything for the sake of inclusivity feel like a pandering cash grab to me but to the homophobic Christian it feels like asymmetric warfare from a deranged and selfish elite hellbent on ruining western society.

It's a hugely complex issue for me, I honestly have no idea what the best thing for the greater good is. Forcing things too hard can be painful for those unready which causes resentment and reaction but holding back and allowing non-violent homophobic behavior to exist in our society is hurtful to those struggling to find snd accept themselves. (For example being 17 and trying to reconcile popular music explicitly talking about how your unexplored sexual desires are disgusting, realizing you have to make the choice between humiliation and self denial - and this is probably a big part of other emotional troubles which can lead to rejection of otherwise sensible social norms leading to unhealthy drug use, self endangering behavior and other things that still have lasting damage to my life to this day)

I don't know what will solve these complex issues in our society, maybe making certain concessions to mildly homophobic sections of society would stop driving them into full on culture war crusaders? Maybe highlighting that it's not only possible but probable to be gay and boring would help ease the anxiety? I actually kinda think straight pride type events and companies pandering to heterosexuals could be normalized and accepted more - not in a way that pits them against everyone else but more of a everyone gets a party kinda way. Stop heteros feeling attacked or at least make those who want to paint that picture looking silly.

It's sad to admit but humanity is naturally kinda selfish and shitty, bigotry and group thinking is as natural and easy to us as breathing while compassion and understanding takes effort and the right circumstances to flourish.

So now it's demonstrated this can't be true was it a lie and if so why? If not then what extra details make it plausible?

And isn't this the one people keep posting the dramatic headline without mentioning the damage only lasted until sunrise?

Fund an open source project to make something useful that helps make life cheaper and easier for regular people

Surely we gotta admit it's a good plan politically and fair logisticly? Why wouldn't non-boarder states take a fair share of immigrants?

Edit - plenty of downvotes but no answer to the question, why wouldn't they?

I've been hearing about Korean true crime recently so sadly the only thing totally new to me about this is it happened in France. Though somehow I'm shocked every time i hear of anything so dishusting, like I don't want to learn the lesson that the world is full of so many terrible people.