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Okay nazi. Ez block.

Disclaimer: the obligation should not fall on a marginalized person to educate those ignorant. As such, when i have patiently done so, and I get met with "UH ACTUALLY DEBATE ME BRO", I meet their bad faith and pseudoscience with "ok nazi, get blocked". First they came for the trans and the disabled, THEN the socialists and trade unionists. I am just fine being indiscriminate with those who prove themselves to be intolerant. Protect yr energy fam.

The reply: That's like saying an epileptic person should go without life-saving seizure supression medication

HRT is no different than any other medical intervention that allows a person to have a better quality of life by influencing the already existing systems of hormones and neurotransmitters for the given conditions/issues/wellbeing.

What's more, in the event that the human being making the choice with their doctor to use hormone blockers changes their mind, puberty resumes AND compensates such that the overall outcome is near-entirely unchanged compared to if had they not used blockers. (And are much less likely to self-harm or take their own life overall)

The misinformation about trans kids and puberty is honestly audacious, such that anyone who actually cares about Trans People's safety, well being and happiness would recognize such if they so much as scratch at the surface of current medical knowledge.

Trans people are not your science experiment.

One's medical choices are noone's business but that human being and their doctor. Parental ownership over children is quite a flawed institution when many parents are absentee, and that's before you figure in the lack of educaction about, misinformation about, and outright internalized bigotry for trans people -- which many parents fail their children by not confronting, unpacking...but instead making the problem of the small human being who has no legal standing in our rancidly unjust systems. This society believes itself more civilized than barbarians or cro-magnons or marauding vikings or australopithecus...which only multiplies it's vicious indifferent violent tendencies.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2023/mar/31/no-evidence-growing-trend-trans-radicalization-or

Goose meme: One out of how many total?

Right! They literally came for trans and disabled people before they came for the socialists and only then the trade unionists.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-forgotten-history-of-the-worlds-first-trans-clinic/

It is a self-cannibalizing ideology that destroys any society that fails to pull up the roots of those fascistic weeds

Oh honey it never stopped being black people.

Most on that list are still targets. A world without trans people cannot exist, and noone's happy to be a canary in the coal mine...better believe anyone on that list is watching their own rights be stripped away when trans people's rights are. (General Bodily Autonomy not the least among them)

https://www.politifact.com/article/2023/mar/31/no-evidence-growing-trend-trans-radicalization-or/

A white cis het boy/man shoots up a school how often?

Hell of a ratio, I guarantee it.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2023/mar/31/no-evidence-growing-trend-trans-radicalization-or/

Chopped off, mutilated, never enjoy life again.

Lmao tell me you're a bigot who's never met a trans person, without saying so.

Thats not how any of this works.

• Surgery is almost always for adults, does not work by "chopping" anything. It is a delicate and complex medical and surgical procedure. (You're fine with the mutilation of intersex infants genitals and the mutilation that is circumcision being forced on infants, tho, I bet, as your Daddy says that's ok, huh?)
• Quite the opposite from never enjoying carnal-consensual-interactions again, I and many of my trans cousins are simply listening to our bodies tell us that it needs to change to properly experience it. For most, it takes the form of revulsion-from-the-incongruence of having been born with parts that make them want to dissociate.

BEING A TRANS PERSON IS NOT A MENTAL ILLNESS

This is such victim blaming. It is impossible to go through a world that seems like it wants to drink your blood, just because of your intrinsic traits -- without accruing trauma.

Trauma and being open about it is not "mental illness". In fact, it's the only way to heal from that externally-caused burden.

I guarantee you're not an expert on the well being of the meeting of the mind and the brain, or "mental illness" to take the thinking of ableist, nazi-originated, antiquated past-medical-thought.

And you're certainly no expert on anyone else's body.

So dont be surprised when this kind of thinking turns you into someone that people dont want to be around.

Idk why OP feels it neccesary to conflate trans people with school shooters.

Three components im enthusiastic to educate about on that note:

1. https://www.politifact.com/article/2023/mar/31/no-evidence-growing-trend-trans-radicalization-or/l

And 2) Shooters have been overwhelmingly men, overwhelmingly white, overwhelmingly boys-and-men. A majority of manifestos have direct mention of Right-wing extremism, oft inspired by the Turner Diaries and the like.

3. What causes violent crime in society, and are there existing societies we can look to?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/comments/jp3q4p/comment/gbesw1p/

the short version is that it starts in the home.

Much violent crime can be traced back to cultural factors. Violent crime, such as murder, would probably decrease dramatically in an anarchist society because most of its causes — poverty, televised glorification of violence, prisons and police, warfare, sexism, and the normalization of individualistic and anti-social behaviors — would disappear or decrease.

The differences between two Zapotec communities illustrates that peace is a choice. The Zapotec are a sedentary agrarian indigenous nation living on land that is now claimed by the state of Mexico. One Zapotec community, La Paz, has a yearly homicide rate of 3.4/100,000. A neighboring Zapotec community has the much higher homicide rate of 18.1/100,000. What social attributes go along with the more peaceful way of life? Unlike their more violent neighbors, the La Paz Zapotec do not beat children; accordingly, children see less violence and use less violence in their play. Similarly, wife-beating is rare and not considered acceptable; women are considered equal to men, and enjoy an autonomous economic activity that is important to the life of the community so they are not dependent on men. Regarding child-rearing, the implications of this particular comparison are corroborated by at least one cross-cultural study on socialization, which found that warm, affectionate socialization techniques correlate with low levels of conflict in society.

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/peter-gelderloos-anarchy-works

As for the re-emergence of hierarchies, I think that the notion of anarchism is essentially 'checks and balances' turned up to 11. You get to a society that's an ecosystem of fluid social relationships, and an anti-authoritarian culture which makes it impossible in a million ways for anyone to accumulate power. If we could get there, I think it would be more robust than current liberal democracy, where the branches of government can cooperate and you need buy-in from less people to enable power to be accumulated.

IMO, good anarchist praxis is to 1) encourage and popularize anti-authoritarian parenting methods and 2) build strong community groups and mutual aid networks.

I concur with this analysis and conclusion.

To them I say:

• If I'm old enough to be disfigured by puberty, I'm old enough for HRT.
• A trans child is a blessing, deserving of the choice to avoid a puberty they are telling you they do not want.

Distracted by media and a market of commodities 
\ We’re just resources, units for their economy
\
\ And they want technology that’ll make us obsolete 
\ I mean why pay for workers when you can automate machines
\ yeah we’re being ruled by other human beings 
\ who seem to have forgotten what that means
\
\ we’re hamsters on a wheel we’re a human fucking farm
\ And they’ve worked us to the bone we’re all weathered and worn

https://ludlowpdx.bandcamp.com/track/times-new-roman

Every Empire on this Earth has fallen...and Floating very much is not flying. 🎵

And so as to not leave you with a Gordion Knot:

The structures of our state economies are going to matter in terms of protecting democracies, and by that I mean if you look at economies that were based in the kind of small producer economies like New England was vs states like the South and the American West that were always built on the idea of very high capital using extractive methods to get resources out of the land either cotton or mining or oil or water or agri business, those economies always depend on a few people with a lot of money, and then a whole bunch of people who are poor and doing the work for those Rich guys -- and that I'm not sure is compatible in terms of governance without addressing the reality that you know if people have more of a foothold in their own communities, they are then more likely to support the kinds of legislation that Community [Education, Healthcare, ..] and that may be the future of democracy, if not a national democracy.”

^ https://youtu.be/D7cKOaBdFWo?t=2139 Heather Cox Richardson, professor of American history

“Practicing mutual aid is the surest means for giving each other and to all the greatest safety, the best guarantee of existence and progress, bodily, intellectually and morally.”

Mutual Aid By Pëtr Kropotkin https://thereitis.org/kropotkins-mutual-aid/ https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-mutual-aid-a-factor-of-evolution https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anarcho-mutual-aid-an-introduction-and-evaluation

Solidarity Economies, and Mutualism, will be the way forward.

To follow Corporate and their bought-out state institutions is to to walk willing into one's own ruin.

Tbf "dumb" is ableist. You're shaming anyone who isnt "high iq", and IQ, and measuring intelligence in general, is doing the nazi's work for them.

Tbf you can insult someone's actions without resorting to personal attacks. "Voting for drumf is tantamount to shooting yourself through both feet and still managing to pierce your ear with the bullet...but hey at least it'll match your furher's ear" (See how i use the opportunity to be creative and provactive with a hint of dark humor?)

Aaaaand tbf "wrongthink" absolutely gives off qanon/kekistan" vibes so dont be surprised when talking like this turns you into a person people dont want to be around.

https://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about

its not about red vs blue states. It's About The Country Vs. The City

A successful propaganda campaign by the owning class.

And a quote from an anonymous mutual:

many people will unfortunately need to learn this the hard way it seems at the expense of those who take the time to see the writing on the wall those ignorant to their exploitation will seldom listen to those who try to tell them how horribly theyre being fucked "if it were really so bad id notice" theyll say "this isnt so bad" theyll say, standing on the peak of the mountain that is dunning-kruger unknowing all we can do is wait, and watch to find out what what it is that throws them into the valley of unfathomable uncertainty in the meantime we must work for each other, for those who do see how good things could be. maybe then, our greener grass will coax them into giving us a fair listen

Heh, ty dor saying so. I got sick of seeing it.

Where was the solidarity when the choice was an obvious fascist or literally anything else?

Im not being condescending here:

In every city.

It even happens to exist outside of cities!

You can find mutual aid groups wherever you are. If you're asking, you need to engage beyond the bare-minimum of electoralism.

Here's a short vid from like past 48? hours about finding yours:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcZjj0NGIaY

Now go re-read and find me where I'm telling you to go cozy up to a maga-hat of any life-experience at all, and strike up solidarity with them.

No. Quit with the doom obsession. It is a distraction so as to avoid doing something more meaningful about the root causes.

To quote a friend: (speaking on such quislings)

many people will unfortunately need to learn this the hard way it seems at the expense of those who take the time to see the writing on the wall those ignorant to their exploitation will seldom listen to those who try to tell them how horribly theyre being fucked "if it were really so bad id notice" theyll say "this isnt so bad" theyll say, standing on the peak of the mountain that is dunning-kruger unknowing all we can do is wait, and watch to find out what what it is that throws them into the valley of unfathomable uncertainty in the meantime we must work for each other, for those who do see how good things could be. maybe then, our greener grass will coax them into giving us a fair listen

So, I repeat: Quit with this dopamine loop. You feel so strongly? Then go be about it.

Ooh ooh i have something for this!

Right so, certainly a topic worth caring about. "So much against voting" is a simplifcation. Kinda gross one, one could even say

https://crimethinc.com/2016/04/29/feature-from-democracy-to-freedom

But you dont have all that time for giving a fuck about the way representive modern neoliberal democracies fall short, so let's leave it at this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7KUhBxpD14

If you spend the next 2 or 4 years building the expectation that their wont be an election, you are doing their work for them

So, whats yr deal? Are you here manufacturing consent on bebalf of fascists, or are you going to build Muatalism style in your physical proximity. Riding the fence doesnt make sense. ✨️

Oh and everybody fucking clapped. Get over yourself because while you do whatever the fuck this is, real ones are out there building solidarity and dual power. Snap out of your neoliberal yesteryear and into the reality that what matters now is a.) channels/orgs for mutual aid b) Solidarity Economies (aka folks having a foothold in their local economies and c) Encouraging anti-authoritarian parenting methods.

We are in this mess because we want that EZ fix. Just vote against (obtuse, christo-)fascism so you can go back to bed for 4-8 years (while magrinalized folks get to suffer) -- Instead of looking at the big picture.

You know who looked at the big picture and built (astroturfed anyway) grassroots? All these right wing ghouls.

Im not gonna rewrite this for every clown at the top of every thread playing the blame game.

Get involved. Engage prefigurative politics. Identify the root causes and move on to the solutions.

Or keep yelling at scarecrows you imagine. Just dont be surprised if that turns you into someone people dont want to be around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq2I08cQhis

I'd like to call em that, but this has changed my mind.

Passing this on:

A uterus is NOT disposable even when you don't want to have kids - it serves a purpose in women's bodily health. If you need to get it removed for health reasons then absolutely do it, but please don't ever think uterus + breasts serve no purpose when you're not having kids. They greatly participate in the hormonal health of the body & brain, in the lymphatic structure, keeping other organs in their place, and it has been now proven by studies that if you do a hysterectomy when young it greatly affects your risk to get alzheimer's/dementia. This is not to say you shouldn't take care of your reproduction or get yourself sterilized if you want. But patriarchy has already commodified every body part of ours; please, let's appreciate our natural bodies and health and not take it for granted. Please do not think your bodyparts are disposable if you are not having kids. That's what men think. Your body parts are valuable and an important part of YOU. They serve YOU and your health, no-one else. You are not a barbie doll that can have parts taken out without consequences. You do not consist of parts, you are a whole person. You are a lovely, important human, and your health and body parts belong to you. I know we are taught to think about ourselves as a collection of body parts and to nit pick them apart, but I want to stress this is a patriarchal way of thinking. Your womb does not suddenly become irrelevant if you're not in relationships with men. It is still hugely important to YOU.💜

So yeah, as usual, why in the world should anyone except the person with the uterus, getting a say in the matter?