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Nah they'll cower in other subthreads

Not even worth engaging with the obvious wUdAbOuT troll. Ty for doin it but fuuuck mute block delete, or speak past them and to those reading instead.

Preach it. One can appreciate mods efforts while also pushing back against respectability and "civility" discourse. Far from mutually exclusive, we need folks to more often acknowlwdge how exhausting the same tired mythbusting gets.

Moderation is lethal unless it prefigures itself to account for those who are silenced (and often far worse) by the wave of noise that is the statua quo. It's not just some nice thing a person does. There is a power dynamic and that means responsiblilty, being held accountable to that responsibilty, and if nothing fucking else than not being surprised to be greeted with frustrated profanity where they have fallen short. Maybe mod less subforums, but dont blame the marginalized folks standing up for themselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VzGdo1IDdc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2QGME8KHzY

These two have been lit really doing the root cause analysis. Has to go further, glad to see bell hooks mentioned in the thread. And the curiousity. Conservative propaganda and indoctrination doesn't play fair. Leopards, faces, how long will folks allow their rights be stripped away before their eyes?

Thiisss

Thank. You.

Ez upvote holy fuck I'd trade places in a second as an anti-authoritarian, high-covid-risk person ill absolutely take that deal vs living in the land of the walking small pox blankets where the Small Business ™️ must flow.

The absolute fucking gall of comparing that to the 14 characteristics of fascism. Must be nice to be so insulated.

Are you? stfu or go invent a microwave that prevents neoliberal mayors and govenors (at least in the US's system) from sicking cops on their own constituents while giving the real estate contracts to their buddies who are only interested in building McMansions. 🤡

Edit: As a rule I dont get dragged into pointless debates.

Im as enthusiastic for space as they come.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pjdJa122I4

Simply put, until we address the root causes of systemic injustice which are low hanging fruit, and by that I mean do away with the parasitic billionaires who prevent that, any venture into space shall be doomed to come crashing back down for the self-canniblizing fascism which imperialism is.

It'd be funny, if it werent so sad, to see clearly the indignance and hipocrisy from those who believe themselves so enlightended, double down on the "importance of space" exploitation, capital extraction and colonization...without ever considering the rest of the picture.

I used to be bothered by the lyric

spendin all their OUR money building rockets they can shoot into the stars

Neoliberals had their chance with this fucking dynamic, and blew it.

I have no interest in a future in space that is owned by assholes and authoritarians. That doesnt mean i give up on Star Trek. It means I recognize this society is barreling ignorantly toward the bell riots.

Either way I've entirely lost faith in his ability to do fuck all. 🤷‍♀️

I legitimately don't understand ..

Well, if one were to try to understand why someone with commitment to their dignity, with morals, with humanity for the victims of this particular genocide might not gleefully lick Bernie's sandals -- and wanted to do that sincerely, you might drop in around the 48 minute point here: https://www.deathpanel.net/transcripts/letters-from-gaza

Maybe he's better than other democrats but noone's obligated to go along with such tacit acceptance of such a gruesome, soul-cleaving state of the overton window.

As it's said; the bar's in hell.

I am sure your concern is indeed legitimate and that you will fully digest and absorb the perspectives offered in considering your thoughtful response.

Bernie Sanders the guy approving sending bombs to Israel? Yeah I mean genocide's pretty fascist. (Not replying to the troll, ao im replying to your reply to the reply instead)

I basically agree, with the caveat that Youth Liberation requires buy in from all the adult influences in the Youth's life and all that follows...yeah otherwise no notes

Well we agree but it's only as much better as it is effective...because when it's not it's giving the impression of doing something while in reality it's legitimizing the stripping of the autonomy.

Youtube: offers Shorts and aggressively markets them at any demo that responds well to Tik Tok, competing for a more toxic comments section with years of experience.

WhatsApp: all the group chats and online bullying that you banned facebook to get away from, 1:1, day of the ban.

Should we identify society root causes and address those? 🤔No. No, it's the kids who are wrong /s

Is anyone talking about the fact that it's the predatory, short-term-quarterly-gains oriented behavior of the platforms themselves which is in fact rampaging though democracies, massively affecting and survielling Adult's behaviors on a loop of ragebait-induced dopamine/seratonin manipulation?

Because Kids are going to connect with one another, on whichever the next platform is that's not banned. What's more, the institutions they attend will inevitably ask them to do so as...things like Youtube arent exactly 100% avoidable.

Pretty pathetic to clamp down on Youth Liberty in a society that has basically none, when centrally-hosted platforms owned by corporate behemoths are all-but-physically trampling the landscape like some kind of fucked up gentrification-glorifying-voiceline-repeating Megazord

"Left wing" as defined by someone's magahat FB uncle ig 🙄😷🖕

Lol i knew exactly what this timestamp would be

🫶 In practice, every locality people are being the rescue workers to their neighbors Whenever and whereever Corporate & State institutions inevitably give way to their own weight and parasitism, the darker the times, the brighter folks shine. It isnt always intentional solidarity (rural townfolk often embody the practices as a matter of survival and culture, diverse as any peoples), and I'm always leery of calling things "natural"...but I do believe people have a tendency to want to help one another.

Local Mutual Aid organizations, and Encouraging anti-authoritarian parenting methods, are the two things we can do to drastically reduce violence in our society

“Practicing mutual aid is the surest means for giving each other and to all the greatest safety, the best guarantee of existence and progress, bodily, intellectually and morally.” Mutual Aid By Pëtr Kropotkin https://thereitis.org/kropotkins-mutual-aid/ https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-mutual-aid-a-factor-of-evolution https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anarcho-mutual-aid-an-introduction-and-evaluation

“The structures of our state economies are going to matter in terms of protecting democracies, and by that I mean if you look at economies that were based in the kind of small producer economies like New England was vs states like the South and the American West that were always built on the idea of very high capital using extractive methods to get resources out of the land either cotton or mining or oil or water or agri business, those economies always depend on a few people with a lot of money, and then a whole bunch of people who are poor and doing the work for those Rich guys -- and that I'm not sure is compatible in terms of governance without addressing the reality that you know if people have more of a foothold in their own communities, they are then more likely to support the kinds of legislation that Community [Education, Healthcare, ..] and that may be the future of democracy, if not a national democracy"

https://youtu.be/D7cKOaBdFWo?t=2139 Heather Cox Richardson, professor of American history On The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart on Trump’s Win and What’s Next

Our resulting interactions may seem chaotic and illegible to authority, but it is through that seeming chaos that vastly complex, horizontal, and resilient practices of learning, cooperation, and reciprocity have historically arisen. https://youtu.be/qkN_nQPpeSU Mutualism: What Anarchy Needs By Andrewism

https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/comments/jp3q4p/comment/gbesw1p/

About preventing crime, the short version is that it starts in the home.

Much violent crime can be traced back to cultural factors. Violent crime, such as murder, would probably decrease dramatically in an anarchist society because most of its causes — poverty, televised glorification of violence, prisons and police, warfare, sexism, and the normalization of individualistic and anti-social behaviors — would disappear or decrease.

The differences between two Zapotec communities illustrates that peace is a choice. The Zapotec are a sedentary agrarian indigenous nation living on land that is now claimed by the state of Mexico. One Zapotec community, La Paz, has a yearly homicide rate of 3.4/100,000. A neighboring Zapotec community has the much higher homicide rate of 18.1/100,000. What social attributes go along with the more peaceful way of life? Unlike their more violent neighbors, the La Paz Zapotec do not beat children; accordingly, children see less violence and use less violence in their play. Similarly, wife-beating is rare and not considered acceptable; women are considered equal to men, and enjoy an autonomous economic activity that is important to the life of the community so they are not dependent on men. Regarding child-rearing, the implications of this particular comparison are corroborated by at least one cross-cultural study on socialization, which found that warm, affectionate socialization techniques correlate with low levels of conflict in society.

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/peter-gelderloos-anarchy-works

As for the re-emergence of hierarchies, I think that the notion of anarchism is essentially 'checks and balances' turned up to 11. You get to a society that's an ecosystem of fluid social relationships, and an anti-authoritarian culture which makes it impossible in a million ways for anyone to accumulate power. If we could get there, I think it would be more robust than current liberal democracy, where the branches of government can cooperate and you need buy-in from less people to enable power to be accumulated.

IMO, good anarchist praxis is to 1) encourage and popularize anti-authoritarian parenting methods and 2) build strong community groups and mutual aid networks.

I sounded like you until I went offline and learned about Anarchism, anarcha-communism, intersectionality, Mutualism and Solidarity Economies. You might get your feelings hurt by online ML's, but that's not the real world. I dont agree much or even at all with some ML's, and others I date. And I give less than zero fucks about what any .world neolib has to say about anything, given how much their system more than anything else has colonized and raped the planet and her peoples.

I never claimed to be an expert on any of this

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