Triasha @ Triasha @lemmy.world

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Should read "benefiting all Americans"

"ah yes humans are flawed."

You sound like a preacher saying "only God is perfect. You can't fix human nature."

I outlined how each of these beliefs leaves everyone worse off.

What were we discussing again?

It's not a coherent ideology. People know things are bad but they have no idea how to fix them. They seem to want people to suffer and they don't care to listen to reasons they shouldn't do things or why the things they want will hurt them.

Immigration is an example. Deporting 11 million people will require a police state. It will inevitablly catch up innocent's. It will harm the economy. Increase inflation, and it helps rich assholes depress wages and exploit workers.

Besides all of that, it's cruel.

Their ideas about trans people are the same way. Vibes. Trans people feel icky so there aught to be a law. They don't care that they are punishing parents trying to do the best by their children. They don't care they are denying children healthcare. They don't care that when they self righteously storm into bathrooms they nearly always find a cis woman that's a little tall with short hair. They don't care about doctors or the world health organization or the American psychology association or the American pediatrics alliance or any other creditialed institution.

Their ideas about abortion are the same. They feel like it's wrong so it needs to be illegal. They don't care about doctors that can't practice or the women that will die from miscarriage or the state getting involved in personal healthcare. No amount of death or suffering of real live people is as important as their idea of a person.

I'll take a clown fascist over a competent fascist any day.

I realized around 2012 to 2014 that republican voters were not being led astray by extremist politicians. The politicians were more reasonable than the average voter. The party leadership like John Boehner were holding the base in check.

That is less true now. John McCain has passed away. Mitt Romney is in the wilderness. The lunatics are running the asylum.

Now we are in the find out phase for the average voter.

"wider inter-class politics" we call that intersectionality. I support the interests of POC and the disabled and the neurodivergent and the working class because it's the right thing to do and I hope they will do the same for me. Solidarity.

You have more faith in majorities to do the right thing than I do. My country was founded on genocide and slavery. Some European countries were too but maybe farther back in history.

That sounds like you are agreeing with my premise.

When rights were being extended to (sexual) minorities identity politics was not needed. Did progress slow down because of identity politics or did identity politics form because expansion of rights slowed down?

I don't know your country, and I certainly know less about it's politics than I do about my own in the US.

Minority groups didn't make up identity politics, majority groups did, when they engaged in oppression of minorities.

Queer people don't have that much in common. Straight people forced us to band together for our rights.

Gay people don't have much in common with trans people, but straight people can't tell us apart/treat us the same so we band together.

Disabled people, people of color, it's similar stories.

Canada might crack the military into the faithful to the constitution vrs the loyal to maga.

Panama or Greenland I figure they would try to minimize loss of life but they would just do it. Blowing up your career for a symbolic gesture or risking civil war in a mass revolt wouldn't be worth it.

(Some might give up their careers, the ones with high integrity, maybe a lot of command. But they would be replaced with loyalists)

Higher in his favor than the general population? Probably. More than 50%? I doubt it.

But he is purging the leadership. If he purges it enough he will erode the effectiveness of the whole force. Which might be for the best when he invaded Greenland, Panama, and Canada.

I wish you well.

What breaking point are you imagining? Our ability to feed people? The US produces enough food to feed the entire world.

Not the entire world a US meat based diet, but yes the entire world.

House people? That's more challenging, I admit, but the people coming here are a fraction of our population.

If conditions deteriorate because of overcrowding, you will have fewer people make the trip. I get that outbreaks of war, political oppression, and maybe disease could push people to make even dangerous futile attempts, but economic migrants will find an equilibrium.

Population growth is falling worldwide. There is no danger of overcrowding beyond the point of the land to sustain life. That could be a concern for a nation like Iceland, but not the US, which is one of the most productive and least populated places on earth.

There is a possibility of deteriorating living conditions, in the short term, but those are challenges I am willing to face.

This keeps me up at night.

I used a script to delete my comment history and no longer know my password not care to recall it. I don't log in anymore, only lurk.

Senate Democrats couldn't overwhelm anything right now.

Barter was very rare in pre market economies. People weren't trading potatoes for furniture.

You would barter with people you never expected to see again. People you lived with you would owe them one.

And you just assume that immigrants would be dependant forever instead of a massive benefit. All evidence of US history to the contrary.

Yeah the lure of power won't sway them because the point of them holding power is to KEEP the working class from influencing policy.

Democracy will not save us. People that won't vote unless they fall in love can fall out of love much more easily.

Do vote, it's low effort and it can make a marginal difference. Just make your plans assuming you party will lose and if they win they will disappoint.

I wish American Voters had memories longer than 4 years. But they don't.

They got pissed at Bush and the Republicans in 2006 for the war and in 2008 for crashing the economy.

And 2 years later in 2010 they voted in a red wave not seen since reconstruction.

Donald Trump tried to overthrow the government and 4 years later they gave him another chance. If Trump shot a crowd of people on 5th avenue the kids of the victims would vote for him 4 years later.