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  • Also a two party system with the one they consider being centrist having an ethnic supremacy wing.

    That's mostly result of being occupied by a militant fascist nation who tried to do several decades of cultural genocide.

    The people's power party's version also has an ethnic supremacy wing, but for the Japanese. The new right movement somehow has some weird Koreans that want to restore imperial Japanese power in Korea.

  • That has not happened yet. It may happen, but let’s not accuse them of things they haven’t done yet.

    Frances foreign minister has already claimed that he's immune from prosecution....

    It was still them committing the war crimes. Let’s not pretend that Africans are somehow infantile children who are not responsible for their own actions.

    Lol, great choice of language there...... I would like to point out those are your words, not mine.

    Also, weren't you the one claiming that the "desk" perpetrators should be the ones executed. I guess that sentiment ends conveniently with the warlord and not the people who enable them?

    I'm not claiming they don't hold blame, I'm just saying that the governments whom caused the material conditions for a a warlord to rise to power hold that same responsibility. In a lot of cases these warlords are sponsored by Western nations trying to destabilize governments that politically align against them.

    And the European involvement in those cases is usually also far more removed than that accussation makes it seem.

    the European involvement in those cases is usually also far more removed than that accussation makes it seem.

    Weird, it's almost like the ICC only prosecutes the crimes of people that oppose western geopolitical agenda. Curious.

    The sorry excuse for a justice system that the US has is for many reasons a whole different can of worms.

    I beg to differ. It's a very similar asymmetrical hierarchical structure that allows people in power to enforce rules on people who don't have power, for engaging in the same crimes as the people in power.

    To make it short: The issues with white people getting away with shit more often than black people (and I’m not convinced that that is as much a problem if we are talking about homicides

    "Black people were six times more likely to be arrested for homicide in 2020 than white people. " "According to the FBI, 55.9% of homicide offenders were African-American, 41.1% were white, and 3% were of other races."

    Sure.......not a big problem.

    doesn’t mean that the solution is to let black people get away with first degree murder. The issue is that white people can get away with shit, not that black people can’t!

    I never made that claim, I just said that it's not really a justice system if one race is allowed to do crimes and other races are not.

    That is a completely different situation.

    Why? Because it's damaging to your argument?

    A better analog would be if the federal police investigated murders happening in predominantly black communities more often than murders in predominantly white communitie

    I think a better analog would be that the government came up with a an entire new justice system that only investigated crimes committed by black people..... While local police continue ignoring the crimes committed by white people.

    The problem is that that is not what is happening in the US, but it is kinda what is happening within the countries that ratified the Rome statute.

    White savior moment.......

    They are not immune though: The justice system is fully prepared to treat them like everyone else, the problem is that sometimes it doesn’t have jurisdiction (when something happens between non-member countries) or where you have to be concerned about whether corrupt cops are willing to let the criminal go despite an arrest warrant.

    Lol, sure. I'm sure the foreign minister of France is sticking their necks out for a genocider from Kenya...

    Please, name one white person who the ICC has put in jail. Hell, name 1 white person who the ICC has prosecuted before 2020. At the end of the day the ICC is a political body of countries whom have geopolitical agenda, and are willing to turn a blind eye when it suits them.

    but it is really important to still look at who is on the other side and not to get blinded by accusations of hypocrisy, which is really just another form of whataboutism that in this case is even more inappropriate than in most others.

    My friend, I'm not saying that warlords shouldn't be prosecuted. I'm just pointing out that the ICC is not a non biased judicial system, at least not to the point where id trust them with the ability to prescribe capital punishment.

    Pointing out hypocrisy is not a whataboutism. I never once validated crimes of anyone's crimes because other crimes occurred that were not policed. My original rebuttal still stands true, the ICC isn't non biased enough to prescribe death warrants.

  • Obviously I believe that the rome statute needs to be signifiantly extended and the ICC should for starters receive flat out universal jurisdiction: A big reason for why so few western people have been charged at it (though: Netanjahu and Puttler are now on the list!) is that a lot of the stuff that could be charged at it happened between nations that were not members of the ICC, meaning that it lacked jurisdiction.

    Right, but even when people like netanjahu are charged by the ICC, the wealthy European members states fail to enforce their convictions.

    Even today you can also turn it around and say that it first and foremost gives justice to victims of color. Which is arguably much more important than the skin-color distribution of the genocidal trash that the convict!

    I think that's kinda europe patting themselves on the back for "solving" an issue they often caused in the first place. I don't think putting retired African war criminals on trial is very meaningful when that war criminal was empowered by European colonialism in the first place.

    On that note, it bears mentioning that there is no right to get away with crimes just because others do!

    Eh..... I think that's highly reductive. If I made the same claims about about the systemic racism in American policing would you be defending the American justice system?

    Would you interpret that the American justice system is giving justice to POC when they arrest POC because they are the most victimized segment of our society? That ignores the systemic nature of how the victimization occurred in the first place.

    At the end of the day, it's not really a justice system if certain segments of society are immune from penalties being applied to only the disadvantaged participants. At some point it's just a tool utilized to negate the competition from practicing the same crimes that others have utilized to achieve their position on the global scale.

  • Umm, why are we whitewashing the military's role in this?

    Not really trying to "whitewash" the military. I was just pointing out the difference between the average cop in America and the average service member in Korea.

    The military is definitely part of the police state and will obviously do their jobs, especially the command structure. However, there is a big difference between the socially acceptable use of state violence between the two countries.

    President's word was needed to end it. But at the very least from an outsider perspective, it certainly looks like the military was attempting to enforce the President's will and

    Much like America the president is the commander and chief of the military, and thus the military must follow lawful orders.

    was taking advantage of the opportunity to be as authoritarian as it could.

    I think that's a bit of an over exaggeration considering there wasn't a mass casualty event or even real violence. Which is definitely an improvement considering South Korea was a highly violent military dictatorship within my own lifetime.

  • It's a bit more complicated than that. The people's power party has supported Yoon much like the Republicans have supported trump, this was just the straw that broke the camels back.

    If the parliament didn't immediately deal with the situation, there would have been a massive riot. Koreans have a pretty long history of rioting against the government, and even the extremist among the right wing politicians didn't want to catch that smoke.

    The biggest difference between the US and Korea is that the US police state is filled with conservatives who yearn to do violence against their fellow citizens. While the Korean police state is mostly made of everyday normal people who are just doing their mandatory service.

    There was a moment last night where the military could have stepped in and enforced the president's will, but chose not to. I think if it had been America, the woman who grabbed a soldier's rifle pointed at her head and scolded the dude, would have been killed or at very least beaten severely.

  • I mean, at least that one had some kind of military support and an iota of planning. Seems like Yoon just had a bit of a breakdown, doesn't seem like people in his own party even knew anything was happening.

    South Korea may be a bit more conservative than other western democracies, but the people definitely aren't afraid to hit the streets and fucking riot if needed. None but a few fucking weirdo new right people really want anything to do with dictatorships anymore.

  • This should ideally be handed out by the ICC and no other court.

    The main problem with any type of capital punishment is that it relies on an unbiased court system with reaching powers. The ICC has a pretty well established history of really only being able to prosecute criminals from impoverished nations.

    If the ICC did execute war criminals, it would be an "international" court that almost exclusively executed people of color.

  • amphetamine promotes dopamine release, it doesn't inhibit reuptake.

    Amphetamines are also DRI.......

    "The following are a selection of some particularly notably abused DRIs: cocaine, ketamine, MDPV, naphyrone, and phencyclidine (PCP). Amphetamines, including amphetamine, methamphetamine, MDMA, cathinone, methcathinone, mephedrone, and methylone, are all DRIs as well, but are distinct in that they also behave, potentially more potently, as dopamine releasing agents (DRAs)"

    Amphetamines are dopamine releasing agents, but they also affect dopamine re-uptake.

  • I mean, coke is basically an amphetamine with a shittier half life. They're both stimulants with a dopamine re-uptake inhibitors.

    Coke is just the shittier and less ethically sourced option.

  • Yes, exactly why I said it's a platitude. It's thoughtless and trite. I'm saying: consumption is not ethical, no matter which system. There is no ethical consumption.

    That's a false dichotomy.......even if we agreed with your definition of all consumption being unethical, it wouldn't mean that there aren't different levels of unethical practices used to produce those consumables.

    All consumption being unethical does not mean that all forms of production are equally unethical. If that's the case you wouldn't really have a problem with sending the kids back to the mines.

    It paints consumers as mere puppets or robots who are unable to make choices or decisions that could lead to a reduction of suffering.

    Can you point to a time in history where a general boycott of a dangerous or harmful product was successful without the help of government intervention?

    Any other system created by humans is flawed and infected the human disease, doomed to create suffering and torment.

    And apparently that doesn't happen under capitalism? Then what exactly are you bitching about plastic for?

    "ethical consumption" in any other living system is wishful thinking. It doesn't exist.

    Again, your argument is based on a forced false dichotomy.

    Not to mention that it seems like you are really just a libertarian angry at consumers for participating in the "free market".

    You can't simultaneously believe that the free market is the best way to regulate the economy, but upset at the people for their consumption habits in a free market.

  • Yeah, and helping feed people wasn't exactly his original motivation for the haber-bosch process either. During the late 19th century empires were running low on natural sources of nitrates for making gun powder, as the British had held a near monopoly of the guano mines in South America and India.

    Judging by this, his time as an artillery man for the prussians, his combustion research after he finished the haber process, and his over all obsession with creating weapons of war..... It's pretty safe to assume fertilizer was an afterthought.

  • Fritz Haber for example

    I mean....... Haber isn't exactly a giant of morality and ethics. He did invent most of the chemical weapons utilized in WW1, and expressly defended their use as weapons.

  • Well, we can't effectively ban guns. At least not in our foreseeable political future. And the people who are already armed are overwhelmingly voting to elect a fascist who likes to incite violence among minority groups.......... It's kinda easy to see why people would want to arm themselves.

  • Eh..... Lemmy is already a lot like reddit in the very beginning, just more extreme.

    I think a big problem with Lemmy is that even the large instances only have a few terminally online posters, so a lot of the communities get warped by those posters biases.

    Right now Hexbear is having a little internal conflict between the mods and some posters over the harassment of lgbtq and POC. The mods started out handing out temporary bans to offenders and then people started freaking out because no one was posting shit.

  • Too bad anyone who doesn't adhere to their specific definition of imperialism is a neoliberal in their view.

    Don't want to support a right winged authoritarian government that is actively engaging in imperialism......? What a lib.