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Okay well once you have created a human it is no longer a choice to kill it. Yes you are forced to give birth to a child at that point due to not getting an abortion before you created a human. Why don't we allow abortions up to 2 years? There's not a big difference between a 7month old fetus and a 2 year old.

Okay well once you have created a human it is no longer a choice to kill it. Yes you are forced to give birth to a child at that point due to not getting an abortion before you created a human. Why don't we allow parents to kill their kids up to 2 years? There's not a big difference between a 7month old fetus and a 2 year old.

Maybe you feel like because the mother made the human it's her property and she can do whatever she wants with it? Big old atheist me, and the rest of the old don't see it that way. Once a human is fully formed, that human has its own right to life. The mother doesn't own it like property, it's a human being at that point with its own rights like you and me.

I don't know why you are bringing up forced childbirth. I already said I was pro choice, and I am even antinatalist.

She made the choice to not abort until 7 months. Thats the problem here. At a certain point the fetus is considered a human and you cross the line into murder. Medical science has determined that point to be around 5- 6 months. I believe women should have every right to abort before the point the fetus is considered conscious.

When someone is pregnant, at a certain point they have made a human, and you cant just get rid of it like that. There are other options like adoption at that point. I don't know why you can't see the nuance here.

No not at all. Just don't get an abortion at 7 months. Literally doctors won't do it because it's unethical at that point. Did you even read the article? Like she took a bunch of drugs illegally to abort a fetus that could just about live outside the womb.

I am extremely pro choice, but we have a cutoff point for it that science has established to prevent cruelty.

I don't know if I would call it best, but the most emotionally scarring and draining movie I have ever seen was Irreversible.

Thanks for adding some nuance that people might miss if they just read the headline. This girl broke some long established abortion laws by aborting at 7 months like you said. She is definitely in the wrong here.

At the same time, I don't like meta for violating people's privacy and working with law enforcement. Make law enforcement do their own jobs.

Still, I don't feel sorry for them. These women definitely dug their own hole. You think it would be obvious to people by now to not talk about illegal things on any social media, especially meta.

Yea OP is a nerd and I bet their pH level is 14. Basic.

If she wasn't a cognitively declining 70 something year old, I would agree with you. When people get older their minds revert more to a childlike understanding of the world. Would you let a child look at whatever they want to on the internet?

Makes sense. Nowadays there is literally a clippy npm package for react. Javascript has come a long ways. We have it easy compared to the old timers.