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  • Well you might actually face consequences, so that's understandable.

  • Now, how SHOULD have the cops handled the situation? Again, it's SO easy to say "well, they should have done this..or that..."

    Here's the thing...I don't have to provide the answer to this question. I am not a "trained professional" that is paid specifically to handle these kind of situations.

    What I can say without a doubt is there is zero excuse for this woman being shot. If officers are not able to go through their workday without shooting an innocent person then either they shouldn't be a cop or they shouldn't carry a weapon. Period.

    A police officer's discomfort or cowardice does not supersede an innocent citizen's rights.

  • https://youtu.be/eAz9_iApfRI?t=1m50s

    I'm just going to leave a time-stamped link to the unedited video because there are a couple apologists in here that are absolutely ridiculous.

    The officers identify themselves exactly once at 2:07, a car alarm starts going off at 2:18 and noticeably startles the officer wearing the cam, at 2:23 one of the officers says "someone's coming", and at 2:26 the syllable "Dro-" is interrupted by both officers completely unloading their magazines into the door/window.

    It actually doesn't even look like the door was open and maybe the victim was trying to peek out the window?

    So how exactly should she have handled this situation to have avoided someone trying to randomly murder her in her own home?

  • And if they had plugged a child with a toy gun in this circumstance your argument would be what? Go ahead. Try and say that never happens. I dare you.

    Walking to the front door of her home with a legally owned firearm does not excuse these officers from attempting to murder her.

  • Hard to answer questions when you have a mouthful of boot.

  • This is all completely ignoring the absurdity of allowing an individual who has been indicted for election interference to participate in an election in any capacity.

  • No, he's suggesting that your original statement (the one actually being discussed) is wrong. No one suggested that immigrants SHOULD do anything, especially identity theft. Your whataboutism has no power here. Stop embarrassing yourself.

  • To add a different anecdotal perspective for you: I live in Texas and work in the construction industry. I work alongside undocumented workers every single day. Jump in the truck "Home Depot Handymen" exist but they are not nearly as prevalent as you seem to believe.

    What most of the guys are doing is getting their hands on some form of fake documentation. Employers are obliged to look the other way until it becomes a problem and so the worker is pretty much employed the same as anyone else. They receive benefits, they pay taxes, they work longer hours than anyone else.

  • How exactly are you proposing that these people don't pay property tax?

    I would also wager that the amount of unreported tip income is just as large a problem as undocumented workers from a tax standpoint.

  • What the fuck are you even talking about? Taxes pay for all of those things. They don't just crumble to dust in the proximity of non-citizens.

  • I doubt this whole display is anything more than a distraction from the impending elections but I'm going to keep saying it anyway:

    Please remember there are sane, reasonable, nonconservative people living here without a good way out. We're not the enemy.

  • There have been great lengths taken over the course of decades to make protestation on this scale prohibitively difficult for Americans. The exact numbers are apparently up for debate but between 40 and 80% of Americans can't afford to miss a single paycheck. Splinter protests across the country do fuck all for federal issues and since most people can't afford to make the trip to DC we're stuck with a non-starter until things get so bad that it doesn't matter if people are getting paid or not.

  • religion is harm

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  • In this specific instance I would say the distinction matters as the critical point of this discussion is the deity.