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Israel will not respond to peace. If they don't kill every Israeli they can, Israel will genocide them. It is downright absurd to suggest Gaza is beholden to any traditional rules of warfare in the face of genocide.

Nope, killing Israeli civilians is justified. Ideally they kill soldiers, but any Israeli they find is good. Remember, the IDF has compulsory service. So all of them are guilty of the genocide. But a better reason is that, since the US made them overwhelmingly powerful, it would be absurd to expect Gaza to fight back along traditional lines of warfare. Whatever they are capable of doing to hurt the people genociding them is justified.

I usually use half a million, as that's the undisputed number. I agree though that it's most likely a full million. Why would you believe anything trump says? And Trump's response to COVID is not nearly as bad as what bush did in Iraq.

So you would say Palestine should have just rolled over and accepted the genocide? STFU, that's a disgusting view on society. You sound like you only care about preserving the status quo.

Killing genociders is good, actually.

True, there is no grey area, because Israel is a genocidal state attempting to steal palestine's land. Quit reading nothing except US/Israeli propaganda and educate yourself.

You got any proof of that beyond "The genocidal state attacking them said so"? And further, since Israel is attacking all refugees, wouldn't they thus all be enemy combatants? In which case it'd be like the Nazis saying they're justified having concentration camps because they are at war with the Jews.

Pretty sure their definition of winning is not getting genocide by said Jews

Anyone who says trump was worse should not be taken seriously about politics, all they care about is feeling good about their country and being able to ignore politics. Bush killed half a million Iraqis in service of oil company quarterly earnings, it's not even close.

So what should Palestine have done, just rolled over and let them continue slaughtering them?

No, Israel provoked that attack by committing 30 years of war crimes on Gaza, and attempting to steal all of their land. What exactly would YOU have done in reaction to an enemy intentionally starving your people for 30 years? I know that compared to how America would have reacted, Hamas is a full on pacifist

To a degree, yes. The only reason Israel hasn't invaded Gaza full force already is that Gazans have Hamas as a credible threat. Obviously not enough Israelis have been killed yet to fully end the genocide, but Hamas is forcing Israel to think twice.

Hamas is the only group meaningfully defending Palestine from the attempted genocide. Not at all like the KKK. They would only be like the KKK if they were doing it unprovoked. Palestine has a right to defend itself against genocide, and the only way that seems to work in Israel's eyes is killing Israelis. Peace is not a language that genocidal states understand.

So you think Palestine should just let themselves get genocided?

What fashion did you want him to use? He went over all of his documents with a NYT journalist before releasing anything. Are you saying that that was too much censure or something? Cause he certainly couldn't have censored it more

What about the evidence of war crimes Chelsea manning leaked? What about the proof that America was illegally spying on its own citizens that Snowden leaked? Calling it "espionage methodology" is a joke. What Manning blew the whistle on was not that dissimilar to concentration camps. You're just using a double standard for the side that you agree with.

1201, 1202, or 1203 spears.

Israelis are obliged to stage a coup. Maybe Americans are too, along with all of the countries funding Israeli genocide.

Its whataboutism to say I'm only aloud to be against genocide if I've already staged a coup. Its a completely bullshit deflection.

I shouldn't have taken you in good faith, my apologies. I'll treat you like an insincere troll if you prefer.

Hypothetically, if a German had leaked info about the concentration camps to the press in 1941,that would have been a good thing, right? So why are you presuppossing that it is wrong for an American to leak info about bad shit our country is doing? The reality of what they're doing doesn't need to be as bad as genocide for it to be wrong not to report it.

Look, capitalism clearly does not work. Everything Marx and Lenin ever wrote about capitalism has come true. It is destroying our world more and more every day. Whatever you might say about communism, we do not know for a fact that it will ruin the lives of everybody, involved or not. No matter how bad you might claim communism is, it isn't the thing that's currently destroying our societies. So it is by definition better than capitalism.