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  • Even if it ends up being a fad of the month and fades away, I think I got my money's worth just from how good these weeks have been. I do hope it sustains, though.

  • It's stuff like this that makes me think so.

  • You know, if that's truly the only reason and it turns out I'm wrong I'll gladly eat that L, and it would be a relief. I've just heard some iffy things specifically about it all.

    EDIT: it's stuff like this that I'm talking about.

  • A quick Google gave me Mali, which is why I said as such.

    But frankly I do not believe it is about being cheap, I do indeed think it's as the other comment said - Marxist-Leninist.

  • Yes, I'm aware. My point is why did they pick .ml, specifically?

  • I tried a few different apps but I settled on just using the mobile website on my phone. The interface is solid even there, which I think is a great feat.

  • Lemmy devs are/aren't tankies

    What does the ml stand for in lemmy.ml? I don't think the instance is based out of Mali...

  • I scrambled, shredded, and then deleted my Reddit account after getting my data request back. I'm done with that place because I can only see it going downhill from here - site will only get more enshittified over time, this was the tipping point.

  • I don't need Lemmy to compete with or kill Reddit. All I wanted was any one platform to get enough of an influx of users to be self-sustaining even after the outrage started to die down, which appears to have been successful.

  • Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Threads even has the ability to federate yet?

  • The people upthread have a point. When I was explaining what Lemmy was to someone, when I mentioned the Lemmy.ml instance they asked why it had that extension and then pointed out that ml was usually a tankie thing. Not a great look

  • I've said this on another thread too: can we leave this type of instant escalation of problems behind us? Are you even actually trying to solve a problem or are you just being angry and projecting your anger out onto the site to see who else is angry?

    You're out here talking about backroom bribes and threatening to leave if your demand isn't met - it's just a website! It's a cool website, and one I hope succeeds, but still just a website. We do not need to be so angry over it and make accusations with zero evidence to try and drive the outrage machine.

    I used to be this angry about internet goings-on and it was unhealthy, I can see by looking back on it now. Let's deescalate a little and maybe talk it out?

  • It's not like you're being forced to move to a new house or something. It's like two clicks on a website.

    I'm not saying that this issue isn't a real one, I'm trying to say you're being much too angry about it and (intentionally or not) stirring up a little witchhunt when this could be handled much more casually.

  • Unless there is some kind of federation issue any user could just follow the redirect and subscribe / participate in the other community with practically no hassle. I was able to subscribe to the communities on the new instance just fine. Any interruption of browsing would be solely due to stubbornness of not moving off principle. And maybe that principle is justified - maybe the new space will be moderated differently, in a way you find worse - but it does not change the fact that ultimately this is a small issue and you are blowing it out of proportion, on purpose, for no good reason.

  • Having had more time to read over the arguments in the other thread, I do think that the community c/android here on lemmy.world should be reclaimed. Maybe after a little while, so the redirect has the intended effect - it was their community, and I think it's fair to give them a little time to try and get people to consolidate to where they wish, but after that let someone else have the name.

    What I do not agree with is your framing of the situation. You have instantly escalated things by insisting this was bullying when that has been confirmed to not be the case, and are trying to pin the mods who decided to do this as intentional bad / rogue actors without actually giving them a chance to resolve the situation in a manner you find acceptable. Did you even message these mods first?

    Why do we need to carry over this intense hatred and assuming the worst of others from Reddit? Can't we leave this bad habit behind and try to actually solve problems reasonably before resorting to inflammatory posts?

  • Allowing bigots a platform leaves the possibility that they band together, upvote each other, and normalize their opinions on your community gradually until people stop questioning it.

    Add on to that the fact the OP on reddit directly receives each comment on their post as a notification by default.

  • I don't approve of comments that try to make fun of the userbase while removing their ability to respond, to be clear. But here is the alternative perspective as to why threads would be locked:

    When I moderated r/polls, we would occasionally lock threads because we literally couldn't keep up. If it was a topic that particularly drew out the bigots in force, they would pile in faster than we could ban them. A thread like this could get over a thousand comments if it was one of the top ones that day. The solutions were then either:

    • Allow bigotry to fester in the thread for extended periods of time
    • Have one or more moderators camp on the thread in real time trawling through new comments, perhaps for hours on end
    • Lock the thread

    This was on a sub of about 200,000 users, with 5-8 mods. There are subreddits with many times this amount of subscribers, so I can only imagine they might have an even lower threshold for locking.

  • I hope that the mod-user relationship will be healthier here. (Bias, I was a reddit moderator.)

    Some reddit mods were crap, this is true. Powermods and sub collectors were real. They did shit up a few communities.

    But these people were a very small proportion of all moderators. Most moderators I met were chill, and just wanted to chip in to their respective communities to give back, in a way. Volunteering for internet janitor duty, because no matter how much people use the term as an insult it turns out public spaces need janitors - or they get filled with shit, trash, graffiti (and not the cool kind either, mostly badly drawn swastikas). It's not a position that should be glorified, or anything, because that's weird, but I hope that some semblance of basic respect can be maintained here on Lemmy - both ways, meaning no powermods but also no defaulting to assuming mods suck.

  • Former mod here: The reason so many subs employed automod to leave a message on every post is because most users wouldn't read anything. They wouldn't read the rules, or recent announcements - the only way to ensure that they even saw information you wanted them to see was to literally have a bot reply to every post shoving it in their face. It is annoying, extremely, but it was really one of the only ways.