Th4tGuyII @ Th4tGuyII @kbin.social

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The only news we should be reading is about him being behind bars, but unfortunately it seems he'll die before that ever happens

It's not that people aren't paying attention, it's that the people who have to most power to do anything about it won't because they're either in his pocket already, or fearful of stirring up another insurrection

Except it's not clickbait - I'll cite Wikipedia so you can look yourself, but they're not the same thing.

Rose Gold is a proper alloy of Gold, made with Copper.

Purple Gold is an "intermetalic" (which have a different molecular structure to normal alloys and thus are more brittle), and is made with Aluminium.

Due to it's brittleness even amongst intermetalics, it is considered hard to work with, much more so than a proper alloy like Rose Gold. The only similarity they share is their colour ranges can overlap dependent on how they're made.

True...

But even on a more metaphorical level, every single thing that has or will happen in this universe, down to even the smallest quantum fluctuations could be encapsulated into IF statements as long as you had enough of them.

There's not a single thing in this universe that cannot be accomplished with enough IF statements... as long as you've got infinite time to wait

Yeah, my family have always had a problem of quanity over quality.

Not to sound ungrateful, but I'd prefer one thoughtful gift to a bag full of stocking fillers - it's better for the environment and they'll actually see use rather than just rotting in a drawer

Having parents who fight over this every year, keeping score like it's a game of chess, I agree that it gets annoying

Again, I'm only taking this seriously because I'm having it thrown back seriously....

Joe shouldn't be forced to work to help his family put food on the table - how this family doesn't qualify for some kind of substantial support given the Mum is caring for so many old folks is downright criminal...

But in the reality of their situation, they're stuck living on the Dad's meager wage, with the Mum as a fulltime carer, and a bed of old people in addition to a young child.

It's a shite situation with no real way out, but it could be at least a little bit better with Joe helping out in some way or another - whether that be working himself or even just helping around the house so Mum can go work to help out.

That's the reality of struggle, when your family is struggling just to stay afloat, everyone who can has to help keep the ship going, even those who shouldn't really have to. If you think that's a Tory argument, I really don't know what to tell you

Edit: Also, this is the last I'll be chatting on this thread - so I'll probably read what you write, but don't expect any replies

Gotta be honest, feels less like you're forwarding your opinion and more like you're ranting at people for holding the opposite opinion. That was always gonna make you enemies, even here.

I'm only taking this as seriously as I am because other people in this particular reply thread are - and then there's you going "iT's A cHiLd'S moViE sO nOnE oF tHiS mAtTeRs" - like let people have their fun man.

You want to prove you missed the joke - look at the meme the OP made, it literally saying Grandpa Joe stayed in bed whole his family were broke.

Again, you're missing the point of the joke of hating Grandpa Joe.

Literally everyone making the joke is aware of the fact this is a family friendly film coming from a children's book.

The premise is if you took the situation seriously, Grandpa Joe comes out looking a bit of an asshole.

Why are you even in this thread if you're just gonna shoot the fun down?

I have already prefaced in another reply that this Grandpa Joe hate isn't that serious, it's poking fun at the fact he goes from bed-bound to suddenly facing and jiving as though it were nothing...

Having said that, even if he couldn't work part time, if he isn't at least as bed-bound as the others he could at least help out around the house so Mum can go work so they don't have to eat cabbage soup every night, rather than dedicating her life to caring for a bed's worth of old people.

Just to preface this, the fuck Grandpa Joe train is meant to be a light-hearted thing, I'm only taking it seriously because other people are refuting it like it's a serious thing. Anyways...

If it walks like a Tory, talks like a Tory, and regurgitates bootstraps rhetoric like a Tory…

Talks like a Tory, really now?

I ain't talking about bootstraps or breaking out of debt, that ain't easy at all. I'm talking about making enough extra money that maybe your family don't have to have cabbage soup every night - a little luxury, not a lot to ask for.

Everyone from a poor or working class family understands that poverty isn’t something you can graft your way out of. Also, a man described as “96 and a half” and the most fragile among Charlie’s grandparents, managed to muster the energy to celebrate his grandson winning a prize and then accompanied him on a half day tour round a local factory. If you think that’s sufficient to classify him as work capable, then you’ve got a bright future conducting disability assessments for the DWP.

I understand that too, as I said I ain't on about that, and I think you've misunderstood me thinking I am.

Again, from the 90 year olds I know, that jig is more energy than I've ever seen displayed from them, especially someone that was supposedly bed-bound.

And if he really is the most fragile, why aren't the others helping out around the house at the very least so Mum can go work, rather than dedicate her life caring for an entire double bed's worth of old people on top of her family living on one person's wage?

Bloody heck mate, lighten up a bit. Everyone hating on Grandpa Joe is aware it's a family film, it's just a rather conspicuous plot-hole that he went from not moving for years to prancing and dancing about.

But if you're going to be a pain in the arse about it...

Firstly, you mischaracterise the elderly, maybe from a myopic view based on personal anecdotes. People who live active lives before retirement tend to live relatively active lives after retirement. The reason they may choose to live more cautious lifestyles is because mundane injuries for a young person can spell a death sentence for the elderly. In over 65s, a simple fall can lead to a hip fracture, which has a one-year mortality rate of 21% if the patient undergoes surgery; this mortality rate rises to 70% if they do not undergo surgery.

Yeah, but we know Grandpa Joe has supppsedly been bed-bound like the other elders for years. He may have once lived an active lifestyle, but he ain't active now, and (especially when you're older) muscle you don't use disappears fast.

Secondly, if you earnestly believe that a 90 year old, over 20 years into retirement, needs to polish their work boots, get on their bike, and find work to support their family, then you’re either mentally deficient, a child with zero experience of the job market, or a tory. Either way, you’re detached from reality.

Damn, you really throwing the word Tory around like that... I'm firmly working class, I know struggle - and I do think that if you're barely hanging onto existence like Charlie's family is, then anyone who can be working should be for the sake of your family to improve life even just a little bit.

It absolutely is cruel to suggest that someone retired should have to pick up their cap, but life can be cruel like that, and I think you're detatched from reality acting like that sort of thing never happens - like nobody ever needs to come out of retirement for any reason ever.

Forgetting the fact that a retiree has earned their retirement, a company is simply less likely to take on an over 65, either through some judgment of their ability or out of fear that a common workplace slip can turn into a death.

True, but that doesn't stop Grandpa Joe from trying - sure beats watching your family living destitute while you live bed-bound for years full well knowing you don't need to be

You really need to get some perspective on how the world works, and maybe a hobby that isn’t making ill-informed ultra-literalised criticisms of family films. Next you’ll be saying that Grandpa Joe should learn to code so he can remote hustle from his bed.

Again, chill the fuck out mate, it's way more light-hearted than you're being. Everyone's aware it's a family film.

Having said that, my perspective is that the world can be cruel at times, and that Grandpa Joe should be doing his part to help his destitute family rather than lying in bed if he's got enough energy to start dancing and singing, and fucking around with his Grandson in a chocolate factory - I think you're out of touch if you think everybody hits 65 and suddenly s financially set for the rest of their lives.

Also, certainly given the original film's setting, I suspect that neither of those would've been a thing yet.

Was about to say, seems like an example of a malicious advert than what they're actually trying to look for

Was about to comment the same thing...

Green guy was pointing out that fl4pper was wrong about Linux not having support for professional recording software, that isn't the same as calling them a liar.

Yeah, I have - and the ones that could walk were constantly having to sit down, not doing bloody jigs like Joe did upon learning about the Golden Ticket.

Grandpa Joe has significantly more energy than his peers, that much I can tell - and the fact he let his poor family suffer rather than put that energy to use working even just a day a week is part of why I hate Grandpa Joe

I know your feeling - though I find it hard to truly lose my temper, I do tend to stress out easily and start venting outloud.

I feel like externalising my stressors is the only way to let them go, even if nobody wants to listen, otherwise I just end up bottling things up.

Sure - but if Joe's got enough energy to fuck around in a chocolate factory with his grandson, then he's got enough energy to work part-time to help his desperately poor family

I would've expected to see something like thus out of the EU rather than China, but at least somebody's making the first move against the predatory monetisation of apps