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  • How does pictures of owning it show you have disabled or destroyed it...which is btw a terrible idea, seriously they're already fire hazards with this recall, are people supposed to take a video of the damn thing on fire?

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  • Wait...a recipt directly showing you ordered this isn't enough? You have to take pictures and write a note as well. This is like those rebates requiring you to mail parts of the box in. All designed so you don't deal with the hassle.

  • Before trump, I'd have agreed with this. After trump, it's now increasing at an incredible rate. It was like 32% owned a firearm. Latest pew from this year is 40%. Now with trump back in power, I'm betting you will see us hit 50% or nearly 50%.

  • Nope, use shotguns and understand how different **chokes can impact spread. **

    And yes a shotgun is much easier to use, are you crazy? You need much much much less accuracy. You literally can just aim down a hallway and get great coverage.

    That's literally you suggesting chokes will magically make the spread have great coverage in a short distance firefight with a shotgun. Just stop.

    I'm not the one misrepresenting shit. I'm just calling out all the bullshit here on lemmy that potentially will get someone hurt from all you arm chair kids who probably got most of their knowledge on firearms from CoD and Hollywood. I've provided actual video proof you and the other commenters are wrong, yet you and a few others continue to spout nonsense. So again just stop. You're going to get someone hurt who reads this FUDD shit.

  • I said 2 inches, not a massive wall. Again, I said 2 inches, not a massive wall...

    You suggested shotguns wiith birdshot because of the spread and ease to use and lack of penetration through walls. Then suggested chokes...you clearly thought that at 10' in a home you'd get a nice wide spray.

    You're not getting into a shoot out. Most people run when guns start going off. Also, a home owner may have the gun sitting there untouched for months. A revolver allows you to just pull the trigger again on a misfire instead of having to clear the chamber, which uses both hands.

    Why do you have multiple fire extinguishers in your home? You're not fighting fires? Why wear your seatbelt, your just going to the corner for a drink?... that's the dumbest logic ever, home invasions with armed intruders do exist and do happen. You prepare for the worst and hope for the best. Why are revolvers being brought into this now, they're shit for self defense for most people, they kick like mules and at best have 8 shots, most 6...

    Oh I agree. And people misrepresenting what's being said isn't helping either.

    Nothing I have said is being misrepresented. You and the rest have stated multiple things:

    Shotguns with birdshot don't go through walls

    Shotguns are easy to use

    ARs are terrible for home defense because they will go through walls

    Those are things being presented by the people in this thread. All of which I have refuted with video evidence of the bullshit. Yet it continues to get argued by the clearly naive and ignorant bunch on lemmy.

  • Watch the damn videos....no where did I say a 9mm will go through more walls than a slug... I stated that birdshot at 10 feet is basically a slug. It has not even left it's sabot at that distance.

  • I don't think that it's rare, I think the majority that survive in that environment are rare and most quit because of the stress. Go over to the /medical subs and you will see the level of frustration these guys who spent their lives becoming drs/surgeons deal with because of insurance companies.

  • https://youtu.be/H6clay9pFaw

    No that shit is going through multiple walls. Handguns will go probably through more.

    If you want something not going through the walls, scream and yell....

    https://youtu.be/j3BlRPtCj2E

    Even better video, walls are doubled up and has distance. You're shit is going through all kinds of walls.

  • A long gun is not good for home defense. A pistol is much better in CQC. Also a shotgun does require much less aiming in a high stress situation. You're just being silly.

    A 16" barrel AR is going to be much easier for someone with very little experience in CQC using than a damn shotgun or a handgun. They're not fucking marines...

    Also birdshot is not a slug.

    Never said it was. Literally said it's basically a slug at 10' in a home. Shit is not fanning out to a huge wall of pellets like the comment basically says.

    Those are literally two different things. That's two different kinds of ammo, what are you talking about. A slug has way more mass, which is a hug factor in penetration. Wtf is this nonsense.

    Please re-read what I said...no where did I state it was a slug.

    Source: bored out of my mind in the UMSC stained at 29 Palms and did Mohave Viper combat training stuff a ton. Try to clear a tight building with an AR and you realize how easy it is to just grab a barrel as you try to clear a room.

    Cool, no one is fucking clearing their damn homes like they're in Iraq...

  • Nope, use shotguns and understand how different chokes can impact spread.

    They are not creating this massive wall of birdshot that you are claiming. Doesn't matter what fucking chokes you use.

    With no choke I would expect a 2 inch spread at 10 feet. 2 inches is a lot of grace in a life or death situation.

    Most people have no clue about chokes and there is not a single one giving you a massive wall of pellets at 10'.

    Yes it has a lot of recoil, but in reality you're not getting into a shoot out. You're shooting once, maybe twice, before the encounter is over or into a scuffle.

    ROFL no just no...there is a reason LEOs have gone from revolvers to double stack handguns....fire fights can last a lot longer than the bullets do and you want to be the last person with them. You %100 should not be skuffling with someone trying to kill you in your home with rounds still in the firearm you are using.

    The amount of just wrong and ignorance in this thread is astonishing.