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  • Twofold: One, they lost a case in arbitration that basically said arbitration isn't usable.

    Two: Lot of companies do arbitration to avoid court, which works fine and is cheaper if you're not getting taken to court much. If 75,000 people that could do a class action suit all go to arbitration though, the benefit is lost. Lawyers threatened that. 3 grand a arbitration case x 75,000 people == 225 million dollars on fees alone.

  • Which would be replaced with “Can the Democrat win California by a large enough margin?”

    If it's going to be fucked either way I'd rather at least have it be fucked in a way where every vote counts the same rather then a Wyoming vote being worth like 4 times a California vote owing to the house of representatives population being limited which means Californians aren't being properly represented in the house.

  • Choose wisely, 500gb game from the western dev, or winter heating from the eastern.

  • As opposed to now where like 10 states are tossups and the rest are locked in?

  • The comment you were replying to

    This omission makes me wonder if they mean Tesla specifically or just using it as an euphemism for everything its overlord touches.

    Your comment stated, "They were eroding democracy..."

    If I misread your implication, apologies, but the obvious question follows: If not Tesla, who is "they" in that context?

  • something something pots n kettles something something

  • Although the community of Angoon received a $90,000 settlement from the Department of the Interior in 1973...

    Approximately $638,000 now, after inflation. Do with that knowledge what you will. (I recommend being somewhat upset.)

  • The first Tesla car came out in 2008. Elon was in charge at that point. He was its largest shareholder as of 2004, and it was founded as of 2003. Pretty sure it wasn't eroding anything in those first 4 carless years.

  • i mean, hows he gonna run from jail? Or the grave more likely

  • Does the article state that he was convicted of a serious threat and prove any sort of planning toward implementation?

    It states he was arrested under allegations of it and multiple weapons were found. Pretty damn good indicator. To remind you: If the Appalachee guy (whos actions prompted the numerous threats the cop was following up on) had gotten arrested in a similar way multiple people would still be alive right now.

    being accused is different from being found guilty

    Your point?

    being found guilty of a threat is different from being found guilty of a threat and attempting to carry it out

    So you agree we should get them for threats or threats with follow through. Glad to hear you've conceded the argument.

    being found guilty and facing legal consequences is different from being publicly named for doing so

    Ok, and?

    he’s an effing kid

    So were the Columbine guys. Apparently being underage doesn't stop someone from shooting up a school. I can pull up more underage shooters, I'm sure you can too. The, "Oh its a kid" thing doesn't hold water.

  • The title of this thread isn't

    Even if he did it, we have no idea whether it was serious

    Thats a point you made, and are now refusing to address. Twice now.

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  • Its a point you brought up and it warrants addressing.

  • Even if he did it, we have no idea whether it was serious

    So we shouldn't take threats of shootings or bomb threats seriously now?

    Wow. Just... wow.

  • Considering his initial (and ongoing, unless the cloudflare stuff got fixed) fuckery, a lack of faith is understandable

  • deprive a potential shooter of their publicity

    Remove a potential shooter from the field you mean?

    let an innocent accused resume their lives

    Or let potential shooters know they aren't being ignored until they start blasting.

    allow someone in a crisis more opportunity to get treatment/recover without making it worse

    Jail can also provide treatment, without the possibility of them snapping and murdering people. Seems reasonable to me.

    let the sheriff enact spiteful revenge against someone not convicted

    Identifying threats to society is "spiteful revenge" Do you think we should have referred to him as O.B.L. instead of Osama Bin Laden because he wasn't convicted yet to keep his anonymity? That it was "spiteful revenge" to let folks know who he was? Cmon now.

    ruin the life of an accused innocent

    or stop a copycat killer.

    force someone in a crisis into a more desperate state

    who will be locked up and thus unable to act on those urges.

    help a perpetrator achieve notoriety

    Least sensible of the lot. They'll be notorious for making threats and going to jail. Much preferrable to murder and jail.

  • If a nonviable and a viable solution are presented, yes that is how things work. You yourself admitted the solution you presented wouldn't work. May as well have suggested portable force fields. At least that sounds cool.

  • A viable solution ... that’ll never happen.

    So not viable. Okay.

  • As if lawyers won't line up for the payday? C'mon now.

    Also, in the current day and age, kids aren't randomly showing off their weapon collections that include knives and swords, because, obviously, the whole school shooter thing exists.

    Lastly, what solution do you think is viable? I don't think a situation like this

    [Chitwood's] department dealt with 54 threats in a 12-hour period following the killings of two students and two teachers at Apalachee high school.

    Is tenable. Do you?