Let's forget mastodon, lemmy, those aren't the essence of my ideas. Before we had people on twitter, people on facebook, people on youtube. Those were walled garden.
I'm striving for nomadic account (concept taken from hubzilla) and fediverse.
I should have one social account where i can talk to people whatever are their software.
That’s the main reason, i was attracted by fediverse concept and word. Its selling point was freedom and bit of privacy :
I should be able to post, comment, like on mastodon, lemmy, pixelfed, peertube...without any restriction. And follow any account, community without any restriction except user, community and server choice.
I should be able to migrate on any software, with my contacts, communities and blocklist. And it should self-update and tell my contact, if i allow it that my adress has changed.
That's what i would call the fediverse. Otherwise, i call it lemmyverse, mastoverse, peertubeverse, pixelverse. So it don't confuse anyone. We can do that just a little due to technical limitation of activitypub.
However, if that's our aim, then the software will slowly drift toward those two tabs and come up with different UI flavour.
I think we should just stop using "fediverse" word as we perpetuate the same walled garden as proprietary software. That's misleading.
The very essence of freedom is that no user shall be tied to a software.
But, please, that's my personal view on the fediverse. I'm curious, how do you imagine the fediverse ? Do you just want the same thing as Reddit with tags ? :)
You could access all of the Jlai.lu communities via Mbin
Well it will be hard for moderators if i'm the only one posting french content on an english server. ^^
I understand it better now, you are right, thank a lot for sharing your point of view. :)
So Lemmy should be my my choice due to its apps with moderation tool (jerboa, thunder). i mainly use my mobile to post content and moderate. I'm almost never in front of my computer.
As an app Tusky fit very well as it is able to manage mastodon and iceshrimp flawlessy. And tusky may support lemmy. Why ?
Iceshrimp plan to support lemmy in december 2024. So i'm curious to see how it will evolve because they also have a group tab as kbin/mbin called magazine. And they have a good relationship with tusky dev.
Currently, magazine isn't used a lot, but if i'm guessing it right, it will support lemmy community.
Well, you know that we can't migrate that easily given the community we built together. But i do think that's the way and the futur of fediverse software. :)
You can create a tab : one where you see users you follow, another one where you see community. And in your setting, you can deactivate it, even block being followed by users.
So there won't be any noise. And when you click on hashtag, you can switch beetween : local, lemmyverse, fediverse user...and also limit the hashtag to the 10th most recent message.
So you won't have any noise. That something you can limit.
I use iceshrimp. I think lemmy is missing a lot from hashtag.
As i see :
Lemmy is not part of the fediverse but a lemmyverse. It lacks connection with other software and other software lacks connection to lemmy. I think we need to build a bridge between microblog and forum.
In the french fediverse community, our main base of users come from mastodon. And i would like to reach them.
I saw, in activitypub the ability to share and post whatever is your software. A complete freedom where you just need one account.
There is differents purpose, but i do think offering people both is good : microblog and forum. And i think the fediverse will slowly move toward that. With a UI for individual and other for community.
And hashtags do both :
It allows post to be discoverable by other apps in the fediverse.
It allows people to search and find any post of comment on a related topic.
It hugely depends on what post, and what community. Political, scientific one, i post plenty of them and often i don't care. Video game, interesting topic, environmental, art design...i don't care.
And the one about sign langage i just want to deactivate downvote on this community, Why ? So you just have to chose between ignore or upvote. Because 99,99% of you, in the fediverse aren't deaf.
Masto, iceshrimp doesn't have downvote system. I often post from them to lemmy and it works well.
There still can be points such as low post quality, misinformation, outdated data, discrimination of certain people etc.
True, but not in this community !pi_sourd@jlai.lu if them don't like those post, they can leave it as it is.
Awww that's called egoism. And also idk what client you use but on mine (Jerboa) downvoted posts stay in the timeline. Probably you just confused Lemmy with Reddit.
Nope, we noticed that some of our post diseaspered on our timeline. It was part on a heated debate about desactiving downvote 4 month ago.
Maybe it has been patched since on Lemmy.
Too complex. You'll have 2-3 votes on every hashtag at most. Implement subcommunity categories instead. It'd be more useful
I believe the opposite, it is way more informative compared to the voting system. I can upvote because of a cute cat, in the picture, it doesn't tell you why i upvoted. Maybe people downvoted because the post wasn't filtered with langage option ? Or maybe because it was boring ?
I believe collaborative hashtag would greatly help semantic research.
Nope, I'm just a moderator. Maybe i will setup my own instance : sublinks or piefed. Lemmy will soon allow moderators to check vote and it's up to the admin to activate it. if i recall correctly.
So i will simply ban on my own community**, that mean only the smallish community on the fediverse about sign language. Why ? because it's about deaf culture, deaf history...so i don't see the point of downvoting.
Wonse, when you downvote, my post diseaspear from the timeline.
Honnestly, I don't accept people with this kind of mentality. I prefer people that explain why they disagree.
if i could disable downvote on my community it would be better, but currently it's not possible. Or maybe a popup to blacklist the community when you click on downvote ?
Well, month ago,i wrote a post for rewanping the voting system. For example instead of dowvoting because the post is in german instead of english, we can have a tag/hashtag system with threesold.
As #spam and 10 people vote. Or good article, bad article, complex, sad, scary, not fun...and everyone add them and vote for the most revalent tag/hashtag.
And with this we can improve by leap and bound lemmy search.
Sorry for the long off topic, i let my toughts loose again. :)
True. I think Lemmy can greatly benefit from it and take some inspirations from Sublinks. For now there is a lack of developpers that know rust even tough this programming language is trending.
It would ease up their work and improve their communication. :)
On the software side, I think the language setting shouldn't hidden in setting. I would move it in the filter bar along side "local, all, moderator view..."
With your great suggestion, i got an idea for lemmy software : why not activate vote only to subscribed community ? You haven't subscribed, you can't vote. But you can hide /filter the community.
The frontpage also need a rework because when you cross-post it flood thus people tend to downvote those posts. And lot other things.
It's not i want "everything at one place" but "i want to break free" :
https://invidious.fdn.fr/watch?v=NkAm0u3lqH8
Let's forget mastodon, lemmy, those aren't the essence of my ideas. Before we had people on twitter, people on facebook, people on youtube. Those were walled garden.
I'm striving for nomadic account (concept taken from hubzilla) and fediverse.
I should have one social account where i can talk to people whatever are their software.
That’s the main reason, i was attracted by fediverse concept and word. Its selling point was freedom and bit of privacy :
That's what i would call the fediverse. Otherwise, i call it lemmyverse, mastoverse, peertubeverse, pixelverse. So it don't confuse anyone. We can do that just a little due to technical limitation of activitypub.
However, if that's our aim, then the software will slowly drift toward those two tabs and come up with different UI flavour.
I think we should just stop using "fediverse" word as we perpetuate the same walled garden as proprietary software. That's misleading.
The very essence of freedom is that no user shall be tied to a software.
But, please, that's my personal view on the fediverse. I'm curious, how do you imagine the fediverse ? Do you just want the same thing as Reddit with tags ? :)