SkippingRelax @ SkippingRelax @lemmy.world

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Don't get me wrong, you need to sort that shit too. Universal care etc.

But I'm still here scratching my head with the rest of the neighbourhood that hasn't been affected by this mysterious river. And remember it's just your kitchen flooded at the moment. You sure you don't want to shut off the water mains?

We are concerned, we have this theory that your gun problem might be caused by, you know, guns.

Disagree, there were, possibly still are, good ones. A handful around mushrooms cultivation, food preserving, food fermentation and personal finance specific to my country come to mind, lots of high quality content.

But I know what you mean. I think it mainly happens once specific subreddits started going mainstream, often with an influxnl from facebook people. Out of all the fermented stuff, the kombucha one made my eyes bleed due to its popularity. Half the posts where new people asking if they had a mold problem, the other half was existing members posting "read this before posting, this is what mold looks like", but they were obviously ignored lol

Think. About. The farmers.

Stupidest reason a pro gun person ever brought up on lemmy. You know there are more convincing ones that you can make yours so at least people can take you seriously?

So instead you sit down, get on lemmy to show your deep knowledge of river banks through hundreds of words while thr rest of the house gets wasted.

All while your neighbours, the ivilised world, is fine and is trying to convince you to close that fuclimg mains and check your pipes.

But no, you sit there doing nothing to fix the problem and try to convince everyone it's the river banks.. and calling them simpletons!

Ok, so you, who have absolutely no context on the situation, keep being told that you're wrong by people who have context on the situation, and your responses is to record all the ways you're told you're wrong so you can gloat about how you keep getting told you're wrong by the ignorant people who actually have lived their entire lives in the place you know nothing about? Cool.

Pretty much. And it's bullshit excuses conflicting with each others, so yeah pretty fun. You guys have no idea what you are talking about, keep making up different convoluted reasons.

All while ignoring the obvious one gets ignored. It's the fucking guns, the sooner you get onto it, the sooner you sort out this mess.

Or keep thinking that it just can't be solved and spent time on lemmy philosophising why it can't. Fine with me either way I'm pretty safe.

Did everyone clap and called you my hero before you woke up?

I'm confused, I'm from Europe but live in Australia. I read about a mass shooting in the states pretty much every week. Often children as schools seem to be a prime target.

Can't remember last time I heard of an acid attack in Europe. Got some source for this being a regular thing and an actual problem even remotely comparable to guns in the US?

Holy fuck this is a convoluted waste of words to avoid reality. Want to see a correlation? Bullet wounds and deaths, where you find the first you almost always the latter.

But sure age of motherhood, IRS and landlords. Mate I agree you need to fix all the social issues you have over there but fuck,kids getting shot while at school? It's the fucking guns that you have everywhere!

When you walk in and find your kitchen flooded do you go and close the water mains or start speculating about the rate at which the snow is melting up in the mountains?

Here you go. Another person that tells me it cannot be fixed, just it is for a new and different reason/excuse this time. I'll add you to the list, I also have a new excuse now!

before we ban every object that can be used by a sufficiently motivated person to cause harm.

Just guns, you don't hear about mass bludgeoning with candelabra. It's always guns, no need to bring in what aboutism, the US has one problem when it comes to murderous intent, and it's guns.

Sure let's work on mental health too, but keep your eyes on the ball, it's the guns.

Why every time someone is trying to explain to americans that what you have is not normal, is fixable, and it has been fixed somewhere else there's always some bullshit excuse like once in the 1900 hundreds their one thing happened once so there is no possible solution.

Europe doesn't have that. Australia had a problem with gun culture and it was fixed after one mass shooting that shocked the country. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/15/it-took-one-massacre-how-australia-made-gun-control-happen-after-port-arthur

I totally expect someone to come up with but but but US is different, because of the above: bullshit excuses. And because I post that story a lot when gun restrictions are discussed. Yes the US is different, start thinking about a similar solution, you sent a fucking man on the moon in the 1960, you can do this too.

Like once in a decade chemical attacks, as opposed to weekly school shootings? Tough decision eh?

Something that in the us is called a "Tuesday", we might add.

So the pro gun in the US are just farmers that need to defend their farmhouse from robbers? You might want to sit down and think who the useful idiot is here.

Makes sense!

Interesting conclusion. When I was half way through reading your comment I had just assumed the drop was caused by the poor being the ones sent to the trenches, dying as cannon fodder, and as such reducing the % of poor people across the whole population of Russia

Is that really a valid counter argument though? We could say most computer users use windows, doesn't necessarily make it a better os choice.

Yes the community has decided, fair enough, op has already said let's move on. People that have been around for a bit longer than most here and have seen and used Linux from the very beginning are still entitled to an opinion.

In fairness reading this thread all I see is systemd good

Why: i find sysvinit start up scripts too complicated to read/modify so let's drop this gigantic mammoth that does a million other things on my lunux system so I don't gave to learn how to write a shell script.

I don't have much skin in the game and have been out of the loop for many years but don't find many of the arguments in favour of systemd very convincing

Not really involved with Linux for the past 15 years so don't know the ins and outs of the systemd saga butyour debunking is not as convincing as you make it sound. I do run a system at home that when all goes well I don't need to login to or do troubleshootingfor months. (Ie. Movies and shows download fine, homeassistant works). I stumbled upon systemd a while ago when I had to google how to fucking find and look at some logs on my Ubuntu system. Wtf have been a sysadmin professionally for years until a decade ago. Never seen something changing like that, but I digress as for your points.

Being able to query logs like a database sounds appealing dont take me wrong. But If I am interested I will install splunk, graylog or whatever kids use these days, I don't need a core component to make a major structural change (logging on Unix is expected to be in plain text, most tools on a Unix systems do some sort of manipulation of log files, and i expect to use cat, grep and tail to work on my logs). The fact that I can opt out is a minor consolation. Also if I want my logs not to be tampered with, I'll look into how to do that with dedicated tools and technology. On most systems that's not a concern, why would you even consider that something appealing?

As for sysvinit scripts pain, I hear you buy a) I am pretty sure most script I have written/modified were tens of lines of code, not hundreds, hardly an impossible task to deal with. And b) that's not something your average user needs to do every day (or decade). Most likely a sysvinit script would be implemented once in the lifetime of a particular project by the developer themselves, or by a package maintainer. If the solution to such a big problem is to have millions of lines of compiled code (that's news to me, I'll trust you on that number) it makes me wonder even more.

Are you sure all the counterarguments are really just bizarre nostalgia and easily debunked? I haven't even read much about it and even when people like you try to sell how good systemd is, it looks to me like the solution we didn't ask for a problem we didn't have.

Just the tip