Plex staff leaving review on Play Store for Plex
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Well I was taking it gracefully as a split-vpn. But yeah it's a fair question to have if it's misconfigured, or relying on something in your network (Eg, maybe you also setup a pihole and they lost DNS resolution due to vpn going down.) God knows with these random half-features that many consumer "routers" that are out there.
I’m suggesting that it might not be about your views specifically and more about how you choose to interact with the other people here.
I can see upvotes as an instance admin. I'm specifically talking about what I said I'm talking about... which is a group of people that always show up in the downvote list.
I'm sure I rub many people the wrong way, the happenstance bystander will downvote... however there's a group of a few people that will always downvote me. That's what I'm referencing with that comment.
The frustration is literally what I'm referencing as the lemmy mob.
I'm mildly confused... Am I the troll or them?
I legitimately think that they believe the service is "meant" to be use local only... but the product page doesn't lead me to believe the same thing... While I'm likely going about it in a bit of an asshole way, I'm trying to figure out which of us is "correct" here. If there's a disconnect I want to rectify it... if there's a clear disagreement, then I can understand and take that... I'm just trying to hash it out.
... Check my instance... Would be weird for me to shill for someone on my own instance that I'm an admin for, no? Wouldn't I not shill for something directly on my admin profile? Also I think there's one other mildly active user on my instance... Nobody else here to shill with.
I suppose I could make accounts on other instances... Nothing I could do to prove that isn't the case... Just like I could say the same that all of lemmy is tankie bots.
Can't stop you from doing whatever you want in your own head though can I? If you think you have the breadth of someones personality and thoughts after just one conversation... Then honestly I don't really care about what you think. People aren't that simple, issues usually aren't that simple.
The lemmy mob I'm referencing is actually more of a downvote campaign... it's the same group of people nearly every time.
So far Jellyfin works perfectly, all my users are on Rokus and the app works perfectly on there.
Considering that Roku doesn't have a VPN option... Then I hope you've at least obfuscated your media paths so it's not easily guessable on the complete unauthenticated endpoints for people to abuse/probe your server.
Sorry but I edited my post seconds after you responded. My bad. Didn't mean to edit under you.
Thinking about it… wouldn’t you have problems connecting to the tv over the wifi if you have VPN active?
Have you ever considered that it might be your personality
Nah, nobody here "knows" me. And you can't discern "personality" traits in 3 sentences of text.
The iPad will last a whole movies worth of time streaming a screen mirror? That's impressive I guess.
Edit: Thinking about it... wouldn't you have problems connecting to the tv over the wifi if you have VPN active?
Okay... so you're visiting family. And you want to watch something on their LG tv. What do you do?
I’m not one of the “run a pirate tv server for a group of my friends” users
I hate this distinction... If you have jellyfin exposed without some other form of auth in front of it is the problem. It has nothing to do with friends or other users.
Friends and other users make it hard to implement anything reasonable. If you're running it strictly for yourself and have a vpn. Great. More power to you. But dropping Leaving this completely unrelated link to a better alternative here: https://jellyfin.org/ with no caveats as if it is a complete replacement for Plex is not the answer. Then when someone comes along and specifies why it's not a good answer I get mobbed by the lemmy mob for pointing out why jellyfin is not as advertised (literally).
It cuts both ways... Closed source things can be hiding shit... or simply never testing/caring about it... Oftentimes a truly interested person can externally test it and find the flaw anyway... but not always.
Where open source can have a lot of people who care about it... but never have the manpower to fix it.
The best open source projects are the one that have closed source backing it seems. I've had my company throw in resources into open source projects before because we used them.
But jellyfin and the likes would be hard to get backing for
Btw: Can someone tell me why he path-guessing is so dangerous?
Cause organizations like Sony have already done things like installed rootkits on people's computer. Now imagine they realize this is a flaw in some media setups the their legal departments start actioning on it. (generate a rainbow table of common names for files, and common paths used in linux/docker containers... running 10000 http requests on a server over a few minutes is child's play)
All it takes it one thing to parse on a list that never had a physical release and now your whole server will be subject to discovery at the court case.
If you have literally no illegal content on your server, no problem... other than that you'll be on the hook to provide proof of rights to have the content... and possibly at worst rights to distribute (they accessed it without authentication, so literally anyone else could have too).
Edit: Oh but hold on! I hear you say that it would be illegal for them to scan your computer like that...
Except it isn't. There's no law that says you can't try to navigate to a URL. There are laws that say that you can't bypass attempts to authenticate/protect content... but remember the endpoint isn't behind authentication.
for using Windows
Has a time and place... But for the general person you can just put them in front of linux and they wouldn't have any idea as long as they can see the chrome icon to get to facebook.
I can see that side of the discussion... Getting over the roadblock of installation... I've converted many people to Linux. My argument with people defending windows is that they always seem to think that "windows just works"... which it really doesn't... or that linux sucks because of x, y, and z... and when I pull out a news article of windows having widespread issues because of "x" where x is literally the same x as they just said for linux... It's cricket chirps all around.
Plex is convenient. It's userbase is proof of that. Windows is convenient in that it comes pre-installed on the computer the user is using... but otherwise a user would be perfectly fine or even possibly have less issues on linux.
I don't find that to be inconsistent.
Ah yes, single cherry picked sentence... Care to read the very next line? Where "unfortunately, [...]"... Is that "shit doesn't load right?" Weird.
Do you know of any apps that support basic auth input for jellyfin? No... Weird? What did I say again?
Oh right, I can just scroll up and read it.
And any auth mechanism breaks EVERY app even if you implement one that doesn’t break the web UI.
I understand and agree.
However it's far easier for me to tell people how to setup their plex profile than it is for me to support infrastructure that they'd have to use to access jellyfin securely.
But to be frank on both jellyfin and plex, the end user never had privacy from the server owner. So talking about user's expectations is completely different world of discussion than a server owners expectation of privacy.
Turns out that as long as you turn off the dumb features, you’re not sending all that much.
Those users kept the feature turned on. I spoke out against that shit when it happened on Reddit. But turns out users who disabled the dumb features in their profile never had those emails sent. I never saw the email as an example... and my subset of 5-6 users that I think I had at the time... I distinctly remember 2 of them talking about how they never got one either... Turns out that I could reliably use that email to show the other 2-3 users that they need to turn off those flags.
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Were the big sections I believe... But that was a couple years ago at this point and I might be misremembering.
Neither helps because jellyfin doesn't work with auth in front of it. https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/13751
And any auth mechanism breaks EVERY app even if you implement one that doesn't break the web UI. (short of VPN or other similar type of auth'd tunneling).
I'm betting most of it is because some terminally online folks here have seen me post similar things before (the last time was like a month ago though... so I dunno)... So they think I'm some misinformation campaign or something. I don't know. Anywhere I go on the internet it seems I trigger people by pointing out obvious things regularly. I just accept that society is fucked at this point.
Edit: Yup, went and doublechecked. Last post I posted about plex in was 1 month and 5 days ago... https://lemmy.ml/post/28376589
The before that...
https://beehaw.org/post/19228632
https://beehaw.org/post/19211350
All over a month ago... So I guess I must be a super shill to not even talk about plex for a whole month! I hope they don't cancel my checks.
Its not for running an internet tv service for others.
Because you keep missing the point that spouse or others that live with you but aren't literally at the house are also "remote" users who are part of the same home.
If you use it as intended
I've never seen any Jellyfin document claim that it's intended to be used behind a VPN or strictly in LAN operations. And actually have seen it directly advertise itself as something to share with others.
Would be hard to share with family and syncplay if we're only talking about LAN access.
It is an alternative to the proprietary Emby and Plex
Comparing themselves to Plex directly in usage.
https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/post-install/setup-wizard/
Some basic options for networking can be set on this page. For most users, it is recommended to enable the "Allow remote access to this server" option
Not needed if this is a local only server. default configuration guide...
Lets ignored the "networking" section all together... Nearly all of that is only relevant if your exposing it to the internet directly but if outs itself as "This document aims to provide an administrator" so not meant for the typical user.
So are you right that it's meant to be local only? Or the creators themselves that run the website and advertise it for sharing and external connecting?
It's working fine for me with it unchecked... Okay fine, let's say I did something nonstandard.
What about the other items? The hundreds of references by their dev team about exposure to the internet in the git? the dozens of others on the site?
Edit: My point is made even if we sans one specific one...
Edit2: or how about this... let's replace that one with this one?
What's the point of this checkbox if not for attempting to get the server directly internet accessible?
Edit3: Just so we're on the same page that you're wrong though...