PropaGandalf @ PropaGandalf @lemmy.world

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It is obviously not. Why would it be?

Yeah fair point. Thats ehat I meant. Consider for the future. Or just keep in mind.

Yeah fair point. Thats ehat I meant. Consider for the future. Or just keep in mind.

I'm only talking about the long run. For now cloudflare is a solid service. I'd love to see some experental approaches tho maybe from other smaller instances.

sure, this is just a wish of mine and I'm totally happy with our mods here.

So you're just an ignorant guy who only ever looks at his side of the argument. I'm not saying it's the cure-all. Blockchain has many problems but much more potential. It's not the technology's fault that it's being exploited for money-making and scams.

Did I ever say something else? People act as if i had condemned anyone or forced them to choose an alternative. No, for now cloudflare is a solid option but I think that we should consider more open alternatives.

That's the first reasonable argument. That's also why I said that we should stick with cloudflare for now but I'd love to see something more decentralized and open in the future.

Yeah sure like with centralized solutions and big corpos too. What kind of argument is that?

I could a agree with the first part and it does not contradict with the idea of a distributed network for content saving. Think about it this way. Instead of one big local server farm you have multiple small local servers which together form a global network. Now we come to the blockchain. As you pointed out you get these tokens for the CDN time the storage or more generally the server operation costs. Of course the blockchain these tokens are hosted on (Solana) do have to be trustworthy (which in this case they may not be. I don't like solana that much either). But does that mean that this could not be achieved? It seems logical to me that with a distributed storage and computing network something like this could be achieved very efficiently and cheaply. Heck I'm using a decentralized VPN right now that works with the same principles I mentioned. Or take the Helium network for example? Don't you see the potential there? Like with all technology these things have to mature but with my understanding they are pretty much doable.

Tell me a good argument why not? How would you reward those people that contribute to said netowork?

It's rather the other way round. Complement a distributed CDN with a blockchain.

This is bullshit. Just take this as an example. I found it with one quick search and there are plenty more. Perhaps we should broaden our horizons a little rather than entrusting everything to some corpos.

...and that's where the blockchain comes in. This means that the individual contributions of the node operators can be directly recorded and compensated adequately.

Yeah it's also more of a potential that I wanted to point out. Over the years that I have been involved with blockchain projects, I have developed a feeling for where blockchains and decentralised networks are suitable and where they are not. In this case, however, it seems very feasible to me. In the end, CDNs are nothing more than a server network that caches the data locally and distributes the bandwidth. This is exactly what an independent network could do with the advantage of the blockchain to remunerate the contributions of the individual node operators. But I see that the notion of blockchain triggers a great aversion in most people.

A blockchain can complement a decentralised network by introducing trust into such a network, where the individual members cannot be trusted. This makes it possible to accurately document actions and reward or punish them accordingly. If you take such a distributed CDN network as an example, a blockchain could help to directly reward the individual members according to their contributions instead of building everything on voluntariness and goodwill as in the Tor network.

I myself am not sure who here understands anything about blockchain technology. For you it's just NFT images and shitcoins that you associate with blockchain, isn't it? That knowledge is enough for you to understand the whole technology. Read my other comments and ask yourself first if you have a balanced information base.

Blockchain can bring trust and thus monetisation to a decentralised network. A good example is the Tor network, which is based on voluntariness, and dVPNs, which can have the same network architecture, but where the nodes are paid for their services.

It isn't a silver bullet but in this case it is particularly suitable. I mean, the architecture of CDN is decentralised, but all these servers are controlled by ONE company. So why not leave the whole task to an independent network?

I know well what a CDN is and that's why I don't understand why you build a DISTRIBUTED content delivery network on a single corporation. I mean, the whole architecture is based on decentralised servers that precache the content and share the service load. Why not create an independent network that provides this bandwidth and where each node is rewarded according to its contribution? I know blockchain is a term that pisses a lot of people off, but it's basically the best way to incorporate trust and monetisation into a decentralised system.