real men do whatever they like and don’t let others dictate what they can or can’t

this might not be a good message to deliver to a member of a group so prolific in the mass-shooting community that they have a wikipedia article dedicated to that fact

why would i want to understand it? for the record, i also don't "try to understand" the unhinged ramblings of people who stand on street corners shouting about how "the gays" are going to be the cause of society's downfall

if you're on the left and pro-russia, you're either

• a tankie
• a "pacifist" who doesn't understand that true pacifism doesn't mean rolling over and accepting your fate when an imperialist power literally invades your country and tries to assassinate your president

essentially everything you just listed is ukraine combating russian state-sponsored actors attempting to overthrow their democracy, reframed by the most utterly deranged russian propagandists

they have folded nazi paramilitaries into their armed forces and appointed ultra-nationalists

Some founding members of Wagner belong to the far-right ultranationalist Russian Imperial Movement.[108] Wagner's first commander, Dmitry Utkin,[110] is reportedly a neo-Nazi and has several Nazi tattoos,[111][112][107][109] to have greeted subordinates by saying “Heil!”, to have worn a Wehrmacht field cap around the unit’s training grounds, and to have occasionally signed his name with the two lightning bolt insignia of the Nazi S.S.

That $8.9T article is a joke, it even puts a literal price on human life.

because a human that's dead in a ditch in ukraine isn't a productive member of society back in russia

i literally don't care what figure you use; war is essentially the most expensive thing a country can engage in

they've obviously spent more than 150bn

They never admit Russia has legitimate security interests in the region

your argument was literally "they've invested money so they must have started this war"

so which is it? did the us start the war or did russia start the war? please pick a side thank you

he's not major dong he's captain li shang

hmm interesting

so what exactly did she do to set the stage for war?

idk man maybe it had something to do with the whole invasion thing that happened in 2014 just a thought

Why would the US dump $150 billion into arming Ukraine if it wasn’t in their interests?

why would russia dump $8.9T into invading ukraine if it wasn't in their interests?

for a right-wing, failed state

russia can't win a war against a failed state?

that was trying to ethnically cleanse 30% of its country

lmao

buddy it's your ideology i didn't say it made sense

bad👏statistics👏

• take hardline position you know your opponent will never agree with
• say you'll do X if they don't agree
• opponent obviously doesn't agree
• you do X

you're right we should take everything the kremlin says at face value

you can be a communist or socialist without being an apologist for every action ever taken by any state even vaguely connected to the ussr

If the USA wanted to avoid the carnage unleashed by this devastating war

"it's the USA's fault that Russia invaded Ukraine" is such a big brain chess move i just don't know how to respond

y’all don’t understand we’re going by a dangerous route

who knew that pre-game handshakes were load bearing when it came to the apparent house of cards that is modern society

😭

so you just don't understand the implications of the original message you posted?

otherwise please reply with a justification of how:

• Nazi propaganda that sought to justify the holocaust was equivalent to allied propaganda
• Nazi censorship of truth that aimed to hide their death camps from the world was equivalent to allied censorship of truth
• The Nazi's wicked despot who was quite literally Hitler was equivalent to any leading figure on the allied side
• etc.

you made an incredibly silly argument, but the even sillier thing to do right now is to stand by it

just ask a question before putting your dumbfuck words in someone else’s mouth

you not understanding the implications of your own argument isn't my problem, friend

apologist

"both sides were as bad as each other" is very obviously a stance in defence of the nazis, so i don't know what you think "apologist" means

too late coward my pants already need changing

bruh what the fuck are you talking about

latest batch f35s are cheaper than most 4th and 4.5th generation fighters

The Atomic Bomb had a son?

We'd be having the exact same conversation about how the Japanese would've never surrendered had we not the proof otherwise.