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would you say you're more on the drigh side or the hunk side?

media amalasis bad :((

what's your point? it's true regardless of the underlying mechanisms, when your original point was that it wasn't true at all

refusing extra affordances based on perceived ageism is literally working to deepen the existing divide

I think your answer actually supports my piint that it’s down to individual experience rather than age

Age correlates with different sets of individual experience

after ten years of familiarity

Having a specific set of processes forced on you for maybe the last 10 years of your career that you can rote learn doesn't equal familiarity.

Have a look at the UN Global Report on ageism and how it affects younger people as well as older people.

Unless you want to reference specific sections of that 200 page report, this is all I found, which literally supports the fact that there's a difference in ability along generational lines.

While technology holds promise to improve the lives of older people, a digital divide has opened up between older and younger people that is partly due to ageism (83-85). For example, older adults who internalize the stereotype that older people cannot master technology may not even try to adopt new technologies (85). Ageist stereotypes may also explain why older adults are seldom included in focus groups assessing the design of new digital technologies (84).

i'm not the one citing it

Sure, but as I said there's a reason that stereotype exists.

They have been using computers for at least 30 years as they’ve had the email address that long.

There's a very big difference between "using" and "learning". If you learn the exact set of skills you need and never step outside of that walled garden, you're not progressing.

Just using email for 30 years isn't proof of anything more in today's digital landscape. Dark patterns are growing ever more prevalent, and are literally designed to make things like accounts settings difficult to find.

What do you think this certain age is ?

If you entered the workforce before use of a computer was entirely mandatory for every part of your job role. If you were already in the workforce after that point, you could either be senior enough to avoid having to change your workflow, or you could learn the specific actions you needed for your job and nothing more.

Also, if the only reason you're using a computer is your job, once you retire you're more likely to just stop using them. Your skills don't just atrophy: they become irrelevant over time.

What evidence do you have to counter the UN campaign

Existence of a UN campaign isn't proof of anything one way or the other. It would be a worthwhile campaign to run if the stereotype were false, or if it were true, since in both circumstances it would have positive outcomes.

Also, what campaign? If there is one that exists as you've described it, then the UN Secretary-General disagrees with its message.

In his message, the UN Secretary-General said that as each individual faces the challenge of navigating the world’s growing reliance on technology, “perhaps no population could benefit more from support, than older persons.”

That doesn't sound like a statement from an organisation pushing a campaign for the exact opposite position.

and the actual research?

You haven't quoted any actual research.

you were changing one service over every 18 seconds? what are you talking about?

media stereotyping older people as somehow being affected more, implying they can’t/won’t switch, are somehow not savvy enough with technology to cope and to be less capable

because that's all significantly more likely to be the case if you're over a certain age

obviously exceptions exist, but it's a stereotype that exists for a reason. if you haven't spent your life using computers on a daily basis then obviously you're not going to be as adept with them

but if you aren't watering down your potions to at least a pint as practice for the tavern victory party afterward i'm not sure you deserve them at all tbh

If you're implying that there's an issue with copyright law then I have to say that's a pretty naive thing to do, given how famously rock solid those statutes are known to be

"states rights" isn't a magic spell you can cast to let your choice politicians do whatever they want

see: the civil war

Having a central dictating authority over every state is fascist and evil.

this is an absolute meme of an argument

should states have the right to execute people who are the wrong religion?

if no, then what's the difference between that and allowing them to ban a life-saving operation on what boils down to religious grounds?

The closer you can get the government to the people, the more they can be held accountable

by what metric?

any argument you can make for it being easier to justly oust them from power can also be made for it being easier to unjustly keep them in power

That’s why the power should flow upward, not downward

while a lovely, pithy statement, this has absolutely nothing to do with your argument, and doesn't really mean anything in this context

if it were up to people like you, slavery would still be up to states' discretion

shader processing isn't bottlenecked by read speed

my sweet baby boyo please stop doing backflips to try and frame this as if you're the normal one just to protect your ego

think of somebody in your life that you wouldn't want to have an extended conversation with

there's obviously somebody, because everybody has somebody

now imagine if a third party advised that somebody to deliberately try to have a painfully extended conversation with you

would you be happy with that third party?

please answer the questions

Maybe you should have the decency to contemplate why anyone claiming to be female online must be automatically right. That’s pretty sexist to tie truth to gender. You know literally nothing about me, so don’t draw any conclusions.

what the fuck are you talking about

you said a dumb thing online and people are calling you out on it

there's nothing more to it than that

would you want to have an extended conversation with some weird incel?

obviously not

so would you want somebody pointing you out to that incel as a great person to have an extended conversation with?

again, obviously not

i would raise a very similar point about understanding nuance