PotatoKat @ PotatoKat @lemmy.world

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My family is Palestinian. Don't use my people as an excuse to not vote biden. We are all voting for him because we understand how much worse Trump will be. Understand that if Trump wins and you didn't vote biden (the only other viable candidate) you are just as responsible for what he does as the people who voted for him

If you don't do the bare minimum to stop the worst possible outcome (ticking a small fucking box on election day) then you are complicit in the outcome.

If I'm not mistaking I remember reading that consuming CSAM increases the likelihood of offense since it normalizes the act/makes the fantasies more vivid. It makes them more want to act out what they see instead of removing desires.

Sounds like MGS4

Watch out the IDF is out here downvoting anti-israel comments in-between slaughtering civilians

Hairballs are usually a sign of digestive problems so you should get that checked

Can't confront your own inconsistencies can you. Disappointing, but not surprising

I really don't think you're arguing with who you think you are. I said a few times I don't blame Palestinians for how they feel. I literally am Palestinian (not born there, my grandma was one of the people who fled in the 40s)

Fucking liberals. You care so much about law and decoram that you will argue a mass killing done by a state isn't a genocide because of "legal definitions". I can't imagine caring that much about what a bunch of suits and papers say when people are being slaughtered for living in the place they and their parents have lived for generations.

Btw Rape is as much a legal term as genocide. So those 1960s housewives whose husbands forced themselves on did not get raped by your logic, making you a rape apologist.

You either believe this is a genocide and that's rape or you believe it's not genocide and not rape because they're both "legal concepts"

Definition of Genocide from Oxford:

The deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular race or nation.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/25/middleeast/satellite-images-gaza-destruction/index.html

Does that look like targeted bombings to you? To me it like like they're bombing anything and everything. And with the missiles they have you know they could pick out exact targets if they wanted to. (like that ambulance red cross told them was transporting critically injured before they bombed it)

Please tell me how them purposefully leveling a city is not a deliberate killing of a large group of people of a particular Nation. Or bombing the injured, cutting off their communication THEN telling them they have 24 hours to leave before soldiers march in and treat everyone there as Hamas members. Do you really not see genocidal intent?

Also legal definitions aren't the end-all be-all. Legally a man could not rape his wife until the 90s. He force himself on her as much as he wanted and it was not rape. Does that mean wives were never raped? Think past laws and look at the situation, look at what Israel is doing, the words they're using to justify it and how those words dehumanizing words are the same ones used by other groups before/during their genocides. They intend on killing Palestinians and are doing it en masse as the world stands by. They are committing a genocide and just because worse things have happened to other groups doesn't mean the bad shit isn't happening to this group.

Is a woman who was coerced into sex while drunk any less of a rape victim than the woman who was beaten an inch away from death during her rape? What about the wife who was raped by her husband in 1980 when the law didn't recognize it?

They're all rape

It's all genocide

It's all wrong

Agreed 100% but I'm still lost as to what that has to do with the fact that many palestinians are legitimately anti-semetic and not just anti-israel. I'm just saying we don't have to deny the actual anti-semitism many palestinians hold to advocate against Israel, especially when it's Israel's fault for it.

Read what you respond to without trying to get a gotcha. It's not their fault. They're still wrong for being anti-semetic. The fault still lies solely on Israel for their anti-semitism and Hamas existing.

What are you trying to prove at this point?

So tell me, what do you call the bombardment, forced displacement, limiting of Water, removal of communication for everyone in the area, bombing of refugee came, hospitals, ambulances sent by red cross, etc etc Israel has been doing in Gaza?

I don't blame them for how they feel either but that doesn't make those feelings any less wrong

Read what you respond to without trying to get a gotcha. It's not their fault. They're still wrong for being anti-semetic. The fault still lies solely on Israel for their anti-semitism and Hamas existing.

Don't ignore reality because it's inconvenient. You're on the right side either way so just be honest with the beliefs of Palestinians. I'm honest with my families belief, but guess what? I still support Palestine because it's not about them being anti-semetic. It's about them being the victims of apartide and genocide

Do you have a problem with the elimination of a genocidal fascist state? If you're not conflating Jews and Israel then I don't see why you'd have an issue with the words "death to Israel" unless you support their fascism or their genocide.

Conflating Israel with Jewish people is anti-semetic

You're just too deep in the sauce to realize that, anti-semite.

I think you're misattributing them not doing something with them not being able to do something. I'm telling you, the anti-semetism I've heard does not stop with Israel. It's literal Jews control the world and must be eliminated rhetoric. Nazi shit. Ik what Hamas is made up of and why they exist, but that doesn't mean they don't want to kill all Jews. Hamas in particular with that, people who have been made into orphans, have had their family killed, their land stolen are the most likely to be anti-semetic especially when the people doing it to them are the ones telling them "we represent all jews". They're a group of extremists purposefully created by Israel and they're playing their part very well in Israel's genocide.

Defend Palestinians, but don't be naïve about how many of them feel towards Jews. I don't blame them for how they feel either but that doesn't make those feelings any less wrong. And it also doesn't mean Israel is right in their actions. They're the ones with all the power and they're the ones who crafted the situation they're in. They hold all the blame and should stop what they're doing regardless of the sentiment Hamas or any Palestinian holds towards them.

You don't have to ignore their anti-semetism to be right about Israel being in the wrong for committing genocide, or to be right about Palestinians having the right be free in their land. Ignoring it only makes it harder to convince and talk to people who know about it.

A significant portion of Palestinians want to be rid of jews. I can't tell you how many times I've heard extraordinarily anti-semetic things from my family that escaped Palestine. And if that's the case think about how the people who still live there feel. At the very least I was able to convince my dad that his problem was with the state of Israel and not Jewish people (all the Jews who spoke out were a big help in that), but for my family that lives a half a world a way that's not something I can reasonably do.

To be clear fuck Israel and Palestinians should be free from their oppressors. But both of them want ethnic cleansing it's just that only Israel has the power to do it (it also doesn't help that Israel killed/black bagged all the major speakers/organizers who weren't extremists throughout the 70s-90s)

Also from the river to the sea is not inherently anti-semetic

If you mess with frame data you get desync and it's very easy to tell when that happens. Messing with anything other than models/textures will desync the game unless you're talking about offline. But even then pretty much every mod you download is made to be used online so people would notice by the time it makes it to an offline

Take your own advice

If I'm not mistaking they stopped offering lifetime subscriptions