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Has this criticism been online or in person? Because the online stuff is a worthless metric.

The far-right would have absolutely no issue with creating sock puppet "leftist" accounts if it allowed them to say anti-semitic things. They've openly organised exactly the same thing before in LGBT spaces, pushing anti-trans rhetoric and pretending the community tolerates pedophiles.

Even if you want to give them the benefit of the doubt, they will absolutely signal boost it, especially if it causes "in-fighting".

Mostly they're just neoliberals. They're in it for the pay, pension, insider trading and open bribes. The only thing they're interested in "leading" is other pigs to the trough.

But as a means to that end, they've spent decades pandering to every form of bigotry and idiocy they could wring a vote from and now it's starting to consume them from the inside out.

They're not worth any sympathy though. If their fascist faction started dragging black people from their homes and executing them, they'd only be upset that they couldn't use them as slaves to maximise profits.

People who abuse their families have jobs, vote and go to church.

You don't mean that though. No liberals do. That's why conservatives won't budge on this issue, because they know whatever ground they give will never return and liberals will always be pushing for more.

Conservatives won't budge on this issue because they're cunts. They don't genuinely believe the "mental health" excuse and will actively fight any healthcare reforms because they will cost money that they could be shoving into the pockets of the lobby groups that own them.

The entire purpose of the line is to create the illusion of being reasonable by pretending they'd entertain the idea of gun control if only these damn progressives would meet their impossible requirements first.

We are at least 100 years from a mental healthcare system that is capable of quickly and cleanly curing "I want to murder people", let alone one that is free and available to everyone (even if they don't want help).

There's 20,000 mass shootings and 100,000 preventable deaths between us and that bullshit goal but Republicans couldn't care less. The voters will have their guns and the politicians will have the $1.6 billion dollars the lobbyists slipped in their pockets.

Even with the increases in mass shootings, the vast majority of gun violence is down to crime, which mostly affects poor, non-White people living in urban areas.

That's not how their cult works. When children survive school shootings and speak out against ineffective gun laws, the pro-gun community unite to spit on them.

Not only did a legal gun owner put them through the most traumatic thing they'll ever experience, more legal gun owners queue up to abuse them for having the gall to be traumatised.

This issue is really complex

It genuinely isn't, the pro-gun community just works hard to ensure the issue is so wrapped up in bad-faith bullshit that no progress is made.

They've spent decades lying and pretending they alone know the "one true cause" of gun violence, finally settling on "mental health" so they didn't have to give up their video games and rock music either.

The whole "cause vs symptom" argument is nothing more than a way to waste more time. They're fully aware that not only does it not matter, it's not even how doctors work -- they'd lose their license immediately if you turned up with a clearly broken arm and they denied you painkillers because "pain is just a symptom" and insisted on checking "the real cause" wasn't menopause or feline aids first.

So fuck em.

Introduce firearm licenses like the rest of the world, requiring a background check, safety training, mandatory safe storage, gun registration and actual waiting periods.

Make it a felony to buy or sell a firearm without one. Confiscate the guns as evidence of a crime then try them in court. They get their due process and when they're convicted, they lose their second amendment rights just like every other convicted felon.

If they'd rather follow through on their threats to become domestic terrorists than demonstrate their ability to be the "responsible gun owner" they claim, they can be gunned down by police like every other domestic terrorist.

Since 80% of mass shooters are already legal gun owners, I'm not even sure we'd notice.

For now, they just operate on a pecking order.

First, landlords take as much as they can with no regard for how little they do to earn it, nor how much if left is over for their tenants.

Next at the trough is grocery chains. Like most companies under neoliberalism, they've spent 20 years scouring the globe in search of the cheapest, most vulnerable, exploitable people they can and now that they've forced out the competition by subsidising chocolate with child slaves, it's time to jack up the prices.

Vying for position with food comes utilities, because sitting in the dark half frozen is slightly more tolerable than starving and digging through bins. Energy prices are crippling more and more families despite the companies responsible pocketing handout after handout and being allowed to pump the sky full of carbon and the sea full of oil.

For millions of people, that's where the money ends. But if you've got any left over, there's plenty more billionaires in the queue.

Insurance companies that provide emergency funds in a way that could definitely be socialised but instead has the overhead of greedy executives with a vested interest in denying your claims.

How about some entertainment? There's plenty of streaming platforms ready to offer you less content for more money, while still harvesting and selling your data. Maybe pick up a video game that's riddled with microtransactions.

Still got money? Make sure nobody mistakes you for a dirty poor by picking up the latest flagship phone, 4% faster than your current phone. Get in fast because you're not getting a pay rise this year -- it's already been given to the executives.

Probably because CCW often requires getting a permit that demands actual knowledge of safe handling, storage, de-escalation and demonstrated ability to hit a target, in some kind of half-assed approximation of functional gun laws (which I guess is why the pro-gun community opposes CCW permits).

Of course, that doesn't stop them from routinely executing their partners or any nearby cashiers when they lose control of their emotions, leaving their guns in public toilets or arming criminals by leaving handguns in sock drawers and gloveboxes.

And unlike police reforms, they also have zero positive, measurable impact on crime rates, so they're really asking a lot from society in return for intervening in 3% of mass shootings (and always after people have been killed already).

Unfortunately, they're not interested in learning, especially from other countries.

It's just a way of deflecting blame away from failing gun laws so they can demand that other people spend 50 years building a impossible mental health utopia first.

People will give pretty much anything to not be hungry, sick or homeless and insatiably greedy executives know this.

The only reason people have anything left after rent and food is because it's not viable for landlords and companies to work together to strip you of every cent.

Do all gun owners in America work in law enforcement?

Which differs from "I bought a gun to kill anyone who tries to break into my suburban home and steal my iPad" how exactly?

There's no need to be rhetorical. We know what schools have been targeted by mass murderers and whose children were killed.

For example, the Ulvade shooter used semi-automatic rifles that were purchased from for-profit company Daniel Defense, founded by Marty Daniel, whose children have never been mutilated beyond recognition

Okay fine, it's some fucked up aspect of American culture. Honestly, blame it on whatever you want because until that problem is fixed, the current gun laws are clearly inadequate and need to be immediately addressed.

They can have their dogshit gun laws back when they've finished solving the problem, be it mental health or Marilyn Manson.

If we're throwing out Wikipedia links, here are the actual laws in Switzerland, many of which the pro-gun community in America staunchly oppose adopting, including the mandatory military service that would actually qualify gun owners to be part of a "well regulated militia".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_Switzerland

It doesn't matter that being a cop is less dangerous than other jobs, it matters that being a cop is more dangerous than in other countries.

I can't actually tell if that's meant to be satire, but I doubt the people upvoting you can either. So just to be safe..

Congratulations, you've fallen for the same idiot hero fantasies as the right-wing gun cultists have. The gun lobby wrote a version of them just for you and you swallowed it without a single critical thought.

Do you know who is going to win when you and the MAGA morons face off with your cool guns?

Whoever is the biggest piece of shit, just like always.

Their children don't get mutilated beyond recognition at school, because their children's schools are very, very expensive.

It was such a unnecessary opinion that turned up so often on social media that I have to imagine it was seeded by mining companies.

"Jokes on you, I was only pretending to get my morality from a slaver"

Sure you were.

You should stick to the talking points the gun lobby gives you. Maybe then you won't accidentally align your morality with that of a literal slaver while you awkwardly try and call other people racist.

He also fucked a 14 year old when he was nearly 40, so does paedophilia get your thumbs up as well? After all, sexual assault of minors is only a small percentage of sex overall and Jefferson thought it was cool, so you can support it with exactly the same dogshit arguments you use for guns.