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That's not how greed works, nor how reddit works.

The only time they'll do something that reduces profits is when they're confident it will mean more profits in the near future (and they can't figure out a way to have both).

That's why they were happy to platform mask off neo-nazis, the dangerously stupid and communities dedicated to getting as close to child pornography as possible without technically breaking any laws and why they waited until the last possible moment to pull the plug on them.

They're not uninformed, they're lying.

They are fully aware that if a politician tried to introduce gun laws that were an exact copy of Switzerland's, they would be staunchly opposed by the pro-gun community, Republicans and the gun lobby that owns them.

They just want to muddy the waters and drag out the conversation forever. The Switzerland excuse is just as bad-faith as when they blamed video games, music or too many doors.

Edit: also, might make the government think twice about fucking with democracy or stepping over the common man.

That's just a marketing campaign from gun manufacturers. If it actually worked, it would have worked in America.

Instead, they get to choose between a neoliberal and a fascist every few years (if they haven't been disenfranchised or gerrymandered into irrelevance), which decides whose rich friends and donors get to pocket the most public funds.

That checks out. After all, it's impossible to have a racist, far-right doctor so he must be telling the truth and definitely not trying to help a follow racist get away with the summary execution of a minority.

He has been misquoted in the headline.

He actually said "Hang in there, we're cumming", referring to the shareholders in weapon manufacturers watching billions in public funds becoming private profits.

Yep. "Libertarian" is just a mask-on way of saying "I want all regulations removed so I can fully indulge my psycopathic thirst for greater and greater wealth" because if they were honest, even the most gullible middle-class voters would be escorting them to the guillotine.

I can guarantee that sleazy neoliberal circles have done the maths on the most profitable political system to back and the results were almost certainly...

1. Fascism (because slaves)
2. Libertarianism (because using child workers to dump toxic waste in public waterways counts as "freedom")
3. Conservative neoliberalism (because you can mostly get what you want by donating bribes and don't need to worry about morality)
4. "Left-wing" neoliberalism (mostly the same as above but you have to be slightly less greedy and look sad doing it)
5. Progressivism (because they'd have to pay for taxes, workers and the environmental cost of their products)

Apparently the new vocabulary is "vermin".

Just openly stating your double standard isn't likely to be a winning strategy.

You're adamant that your guns are the solution to problems that are happening right now, but I know for a fact that all you've done is talk about them on the internet, because if you followed through on any of it you'd be on the news (and also dead).

But apparently, you're a hero anyway.

I'm adamant that gun control is the solution to problems that are happening right now. You're guessing that all I've done is talk about them on the internet, because you don't have any of the information you'd need to know for sure.

But apparently, all I'm doing is bitching.

I guess when you live in a fantasy world, you can pretend the good guys are the ones that insist they have the solution, do nothing to enact it yet still work tirelessly to block any alternatives.

Back in reality though, those people are dogshit.

Off you go then, time to shoot the government. The state is executing civilians in the street, imprisoning minorities to use as slaves, funnelling billions of dollars into an oppressive war that mostly kills children and there's a fascist running for office.

I'm sure once you've been gunned down and your crush has finished sobbing over your body and your boss has given a speech about how they never truly appreciated you, America's fascists will surrender the power they have and America will become a democracy to rival... All the other democracies that don't casually arm criminals, wife beaters and suicidal children.

Until then, you're a grown man telling people your hero fantasies with all the credibility of a child saying they're in the Avengers. Being pro-democracy isn't a requirement for buying a gun and you've killed exactly zero fascists.

And either way, a public square where violent fascists are attacking people and screaming over everyone with megaphones isn't a place where anything important is being discussed anyway.

Screaming over everyone with megaphones about how they're not allowed to scream over everyone with megaphones, to a crowd that's 50% mannequins that have been wired up to play pre-recorded cheering.

Unfortunately, the discussion is important. Everybody hangs out in that public square which means everybody is forced to hear the megaphone Mein Kamph. It's how the far-right procreate now

Thanks. I enjoy writing and hate corporate propaganda and it gives me plenty of both to work with.

You've done nothing and you'll do nothing. You're living in the exact hero fantasy you were so offended by. Meanwhile, actual people die at the hands of the actual fascists you've enabled.

But even if we take your pinkie promise seriously, what exactly are you going to offer in return for all these deaths? "Have gun"?

You promote gun laws that don't even require gun owners to observe basic gun safety, let alone competency. How many of them would even understand orders, let alone follow them? How many of them know how to fly a drone, despite it clearly being far more useful? How many know how to give medical care in a field?

If you wanted to help people, you'd already be doing it. Instead you sit on the internet while minorities are killed and fascists gain power and tell people "Don't worry, if it gets too bad I'll shoot it".

"As long as I can still shoot things and be racist" - Republicans

But you’re going to shoot them all with your cool guns if they try right?

That's the idea, and hopefully anyone else who believes in things like democracy and civil rights.

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But you're going to shoot them all with your cool guns if they try right?

You're just waiting for the perfect moment that for some reason -- despite you openly acknowledging the danger of them -- isn't now nor when there were high profile state executions of unarmed minorities nor any other time in the last decade.

Or is the idea that they're supposed to be intimidated? Because with America far closer to the brink of fascism than comparable countries with gun control, it looks like it was nothing more than yet another slice of unfit-shifting pro-gun bullshit.

I know, but we're too deep into the comment chain to make replying to the inevitable "actually, those are just black criminals in low income areas so they don't count" worth our time replying to.

I really enjoyed this comment. Not because it was in any way insightful or entertaining, but because you couldn't actually create a logical link from my comment to your own, but you were so desperate to push exactly the propaganda I was talking about that you went ahead and posted it anyway.

You're right, the multiple white supremacist militia groups that have been charged with seditious conspiracy for their attempt to overthrow the government at the behest of the previous president trying to desperately cling to power is just a boogeyman created by the gun lobby

Yet here you are, leaping to the defense of the companies (and laws they've written) that sell those groups all the semi-automatic weapons their black little hearts desire.

I wonder who is the most grateful for your service?

The violent, dangerous far-right extremists that are responsible for the majority of mass shootings and actively target minorities with them?

The gun lobby members banking record profits even as mass shootings, domestic homicides and impulse murders surge?

The Republicans who have been enjoying $16 million a year in open bribes ever since Sandy Hook doubled them, plus a small army of single-issue voters who will tolerate any amount of bigotry, stupidity, oppression and exploitation as long as gun safety remains optional?

Or the minorities who are told "If you don't want to be murdered then buy more guns and carry them with you everywhere and be ready to kill another person at any moment", like that's an existence aspired to by anybody except bloodthirsty gun-owners (and one that isn't a requirement in any other wealthy, progressive country with functional gun laws)?

Nobody outside of a deeply stupid, easily manipulated and heavily astroturfed pocket of social media believes you're helping anybody besides extremists, greedy psychopaths and yourself.

You won't go down in history with the likes of climate change deniers, you'll go down in history with the people who claimed that "I only want what's best for black people and that's actually being enslaved by white men".

Unfortunately, beyond just being immoral, the trauma wouldn't "teach" them a thing anyway.

More than likely, they'd double down on their rhetoric and claim its because there wasn't enough guns and abusive manipulation. Best case scenario, they'd demand some of those tuition fees went towards turning their school (and only their school) into a bulletproof fortress.

If they actually started regretting their actions, they'd just be gagged and buried by their peers.

We can already see this in action -- record numbers of teenagers are blowing their brains out with their daddy's "keep my family safe" guns.

So where are the gun owners publicly pleading with other gun owners to properly secure their firearms? Where are the people haunted by the memory of teaching their child how to load and fire the round that killed them as they patted themselves on the back for being a "responsible gun owner".

They either don't care about their dead kid (unlikely, even for the real pieces of shit), don't acknowledge their role in enabling their suicide or simply don't have a space to talk about it without being attacked.

Monthly mass murder they can tolerate but the c-word? Unforgivable.

Oh no, bad words!