PlogLod @ PlogLod @lemmy.world

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THANK YOU! Someone who has experienced the same thing. That's exactly what I mean. I can't even mention companies like Amazon in any context, even when it's not negative at all.

And yes, separating my comments and rewording them for absolutely no reason when they still say the same thing, can sometimes work, and other times doesn't. It's really annoying.

And of course you get downvoted even when you provide reasonable examples. I already gave them examples but they demanded to know more and continue to make various assumptions about me.

People here are so closed-minded honestly, that they can't possibly believe that there are major flaws with YouTube's comment deletion algorithm, and they can impact some people more than others for no reason. Do they have so much faith in these companies and automated systems that they can't possibly fathom they might not work properly or fairly 100% of the time? Or can people not even accept that other people's experiences with the same things might be different than theirs? It reminds me of people who refuse to believe other intelligent life could exist somewhere in the universe. They can't even accept it as a hypothetical.

And now go on, downvote me. It's so mindless.

Sorry for the rant. These people frustrate me.

You can help, if you're able to. Not wanting to help with this is something different.

I explained that my comments are being deleted. No one needs to know what every single comment I posted is, in order to suggest a text character that works. I already gave some examples, but people are demanding more. No matter what I say, they refuse to help.

Btw it does happen to a lot of people, and I've seen lots of people complaining of it in comments sections as well as on Reddit.

It's not one comment like I said. It's at least 50% of the comments I make, completely harmless.

Sometimes I might say things like "This is really messed up" and it gets deleted. Or often it's not even that, like just random sentences. I literally can't think of examples because it happens so often. As many other people can attest to, their account often seems to be unable to comment completely innocuous things while other accounts are able to. If you have supreme faith in AI and YouTube auto-moderation, then you might say "Whatever is happening, you deserve it." Which seems to be the prevailing view here, sadly.

But I just ask you to think a bit more compassionately and not assume the worst of people. There are many cases of similar situations that prove that there are completely innocent people having their comments removed for no reason. I'm thinking I might have to find one and post it here so people believe me.

Look I appreciate if you were trying to help. But what you were saying honestly didn't make sense.

I really don't think I was being hostile. I tried to explain my position clearly, that for multiple reasons I'm unable to state exact comments that have been removed, though I gave you general examples. You seemed to ignore this multiple times and at that point I didn't know how else to explain it.

And you tried to argue that you weren't able to provide a character format without knowing the exact content, inaccurately comparing it to someone not telling you what problem they were having with their car, even though I have explained the problem and there's nothing preventing anyone from helping with it in this case.

All it requires is the knowledge and willingness to suggest a text character that doesn't get removed.

This is really hard to understand for me, if someone else asked for help with this, I would just help if I could. I wouldn't try to determine what the person is commenting.

So are you still saying you can't physically help with what I'm asking? Or do you just not want to help unless I tell you the content, because you can't trust that what I'm commenting is completely innocuous and getting deleted for no reason? Do we not trust each other at our word anymore in this society?

So you're incapable of imagining a hypothetical where even you agree that what I'm trying to say is completely innocuous?

Or do you actually think that there's no situation when an innocuous comment gets deleted (even though there are countless examples online of people in the same situation as me)?

Honestly worrying if people have this much faith in auto-moderation systems.

This place reeks of a lack of empathy, seriously. I explained my situation and it does make sense. But people (not you specifically) are being really rude.

A user here repeatedly tried to argue that they physically could not provide an answer without knowing the content. I think they realised their logic didn't make sense after I explained it clearly, because they stopped replying.

Also, people are being incredibly rude for no reason. "Little homie"? And why are you assuming my gender? Weird internet stuff.

Can you not imagine a scenario where there are innocuous comments getting deleted? Do you really have that much faith in AI that you trust it would always make the correct decision in removing comments? Do I have to try to find other instances online of people being unable to post completely harmless comments that get deleted for seemingly no reason?

I explained the reason why I'm not specifying the exact content, though I actually did give examples which people ignored and demanded to know more. Evidently, it would further distract from the actual question and stop people from answering it, and also it's varied what gets deleted and doesn't even follow a consistent formula.

This is really disheartening, tbh.

Nothing I'm saying is offensive, and trust me, a lot of completely unoffensive and harmless comments are blocked, while very offensive content is allowed. It often makes no sense either, and I think the bots are literally broken. A quick Google search about this issue shows some people wanting to post admittedly offensive things, but other people who were trying to make completely innocuous comments and still having them get removed. And it's really varied and inconsistent what gets deleted. I'm in the latter camp.

Well thank you for understanding what no one else seems to get, at least. I thought I was going insane.

You don't physically need to know what the content is, in order to suggest a text character that doesn't get removed.

People might have a reason why they don't want to provide a text character that doesn't get removed.

But since I've stated that the content is unproblematic in any way, there should be no problem with providing one.

Hopefully someone is willing and able to help.

No one is understanding a very basic point, seemingly.

You don't need to know the content that's being removed, which is varied, in order to be able to suggest a text character that doesn't get removed.

People in this thread, mainly one person in particular, is trying to argue that they would need to know what the content is in order to suggest a text character. That literally makes no sense.

If you know a text character that might work, then that would be helpful, and you don't need to know what the content is in order to provide that.

Please tell me you understand this.

No one's been able to answer this very basic question. Just downvoting with no explanation even though your logic is flawed.

What about knowing the specific content would enable you to suggest a text character that doesn't get removed?

If you could suggest a text character that doesn't get removed, then knowing the specific content, which is varied anyway, would not change your ability to suggest that text character since you would be able to suggest it anyway.

Wanting to bypass a broken YouTube detection filter with variant characters is a stupid question?

I'm neither of those things and I'm not doing anything wrong. It speaks volumes that no one is able to focus on the actual question and instead chooses to obsess over what content is being removed.

Can you just imagine a hypothetical, which I assert is actually the case, where I'm trying to say something that you yourself would likely agree is completely reasonable; and yet it's being deleted. Say that happens so frequently to the point that you have 2 options, to either stop commenting even though you want to be able to, or seek alternative characters that don't get deleted.

In that situation, seeking alternative characters that don't get removed is a reasonable solution.

If you don't have an answer to the question, that's fine. But I'm not interested in your assumptions about what you imagine I'm trying to comment. It's all in your head.

This is a false equivalency. I'll try to spell it out clearly.

I'm looking for a character format (a type of alternative text characters) that doesn't get removed.

It's not necessary to know what content is being removed in order to suggest a character format that doesn't get removed.

So I don't know why you're so focused on trying to determine what the content is when it actually is irrelevant to the question I'm asking.

I said what the problem is. Comments are getting deleted. And I'm specifically asking if anyone knows a character format that doesn't get removed. You don't need to know what content is being removed in order to suggest a character format. I don't know why you're not understanding this.

Why would you need to know what was being removed in order to suggest a character format that doesn't get deleted? That doesn't make sense to me. The actual content is irrelevant.

It seems completely logical to me. I'm looking for a solution to the issue. Trying to ascertain the exact content being removed is irrelevant to solving the issue.

I'm not alt right. I'm left wing. What isn't how free speech works? I didn't even say what the content was that was being removed. You're making a lot of assumptions.