PlogLod @ PlogLod @lemmy.world

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I don't know why you're saying that you need to know what things I've commented in order to help me find an alternate character text that doesnt get deleted. It's literally random innocuous things. Like for example I could say "Maybe one day electric cars will be much faster than gas powered cars" and it gets deleted.

Have you ever been in a situation where no one believes you even though you know you're innocent? That's what this is for me.

As I addressed in other comments, it's not creators. It's YouTube. Creators have confirmed to me they're not deleting comments. And by YouTube, I mean some kind of automated system because it's insta-removal for various random things I say. Like literally harmless things. What you just said could be deleted if you were me, for example. I don't know why. People won't believe me and that sucks. I wish someone would believe me. Well, a few people did.

Yeah, that's fine. If they want to delete comments that are actually problematic, I don't have a problem with that. But the system is actually broken. Nothing I'm saying is problematic. I'll give you an example. What you just said now could easily be deleted. What I'm saying right now could easily be deleted. Anything I say could be deleted for no apparent reason when there's nothing wrong with it at all. That's what people aren't understanding.

I don't know what concern troll is. But I've been accused of being a troll before which sucks. I'm not a troll.

I've given other examples already like how I can't mention brand names in any context and can't say anything about certain governments, corporations or industries regardless of the content. Like literally anything about them, including positive or neutral.

I also struggle to think of examples because it happens so often and I'm not recording them and they're just random things I wouldn't remember.

Beyond that I shouldn't have to say what gets deleted and I actually can't think of examples because I've already forgotten about them. It's usually completely random things.

Also, the question is about alternate text characters. Some people were kind enough to understand this does happen to some people for no discernable reason, and either were empathetic but couldn't help, while others actually gave some nice tips. Most people took this post as an opportunity to grill me about what the content was and assume the worst about me in a number of ways and insult me.

It's really whatever. This is a known problem if you look into it online and there's even someone else in this comments section who said they experienced the same issues.

Maybe it will become more well known and people will understand that these systems do not always work properly and often delete some people's comments in some cases for no apparent reason, with mixed results. Assuming that they always work properly is just an illogical stance in my opinion. Technology is fallible, and especially AI and auto-moderation.

This honestly reminds me of something. Before butt-dialing became well known, when it happened sometimes people would literally refuse to believe that the phone had dialled accidentally in their pocket. They thought that such an issue could never occur. Well, it did. And this is a real problem I'm talking about, and I am honestly innocent. I could easily be the same person as you, and if you were in this situation, I would be empathetic to it and I wouldn't demand to know what you were commenting (especially when it's literally lots of random things in various scenarios). If someone told me that they were having a technical issue like this, I would believe them. We need to believe each other more, I think. All this accusation of falsehood. I understand trolls exist, but we've all lost our minds if we assume everyone is a troll all the time. Tbh.

It's okay to be not be able to talk and have your lips stitched up at all times... just kidding. But that's what it feels like. If I have something I want to say, I should be able to say it (presuming it's not problematic in any way, which it's not). People here are honestly really hard to understand, assuming that I must be saying something bad when I'm literally not. All the assumptions people make. Imagine if you were in that situation, you see a video, you want to say something innocuous, bam, deleted. Try again, say something different, bam. Censored for no reason. It's dystopian, and it makes it worse that other people can say things but some people can't. I can say certain random things but not others, with no rhyme or reason to it.

Exactly, everyone uses it. Otherwise I would 100% be using Oddysee or something like that. The problem is all the main content is on YouTube so I want to be able to comment on YouTube.

I already addressed this here in another comment right after I posted because I know people always claim this lol (based on what I saw of Reddit threads discussing this issue). No it's not the creators, it's 100% YouTube bots. There's a slight possibility it could be people working for YouTube in certain cases on popular channels but mostly it's definitely bots. I often know the creators personally and they've confirmed they're not deleting them and they don't know why it happens.

It happens instantly and I often know the creators personally, and they confirm that they're not deleting them. It's bots 100%. It also bypasses when I write things in different ways, with no real "rhyme or reason" to it.

Thank you.

Good point. I guess it was worth a try. Someone might know. There were people on some Reddit posts who knew (but didn't specify an exact format that worked, and the ones I tried I was still having the same problems with). I guess I could try asking on the YouTube community (if there is one), but judging by the toxic replies and hostility in this thread, that could be a shitshow.

These are creative solutions. I really appreciate you trying to answer when no one else would. But I'm probably not going to change each letter or word individually for everything I say (or translate to another language, which means most people can't understand it) when I don't even know what things are going to be removed for seemingly no reason. What I do currently is similar, if I notice that my comment has been removed, I usually try to rephrase it, split it up, and post it in different ways through trial and error.

Sometimes I've noticed if my comment is simply longer than a few sentences (or a small invisible character limit, seemingly), it gets deleted. So truncating what I'm saying can work.

But all of this is very difficult to do and never works consistently. I still get random comments deleted all the time.

The desire for a text character format that doesn't get removed by default is this: I would be able to type normally without having to worry about deletion. I would not say anything bad, because I don't already. It would just mean that this faulty comment deletion would no longer prevent me from using the comments section.

So let's take that example (and of course wanting to be able to comment completely normal things without them being deleted is not as extreme as trying to pick a lock, but close enough).

What if the person wasn't able to share exactly why they needed to pick a lock, but they gave you some information pointing to what it was, and asked you to trust that their intentions were pure and they weren't doing anything wrong?

Would you still refuse to help them?

Obviously this is a hypothetical, and I gave given multiple examples already of the types of harmless comments that get deleted, but people still refuse to even consider the possibility of helping me.

Inb4 downvotes, because that's how this is going, downvote me for no reason without explaining why, or for reasons that make no sense.

Well that example actually makes sense. It demonstrates that you don't necessarily need to know the specifics in order to help, you just want to know because you're apprehensive. What the commenter you were replying to was saying was a completely disingenuous comparison.

No reason for downvoting. Muh muh hivemind.

See what I mean? I provide examples and no one cares. Just more downvotes. Just really toxic behaviour here. You are probably the ones who deserve to have your comments deleted more than me.

Trust me, you are rare as a more reasonable person on this platform by the fact that what you're saying actually makes sense and is somewhat kind natured. So I appreciate that at least.

Also, everyone knows people on Reddit (and the culture here is basically the same as Reddit) are really rude and unempathetic to anyone asking for help. So this isn't limited to this thread at all.

I provided examples already, and I also said that I'm not trying to say anything bad in any way. But people don't believe me, and demand to know more, and won't accept the answers I give. They assume the worst of me and make a lot of false accusations.

On top of that, people are rude and insult me for no reason.

Everything I say gets downvoted no matter how reasonable it is.

Yes, this is unempathetic. I know empathetic people. This is not that.

Upvoted for acknowledging the madness of YouTube. It's a broken platform and this crazy comment deletion that doesn't even work properly and deletes completely normal comments is the worst thing they've done ever since its inception, tbh.