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Begin with the "cherry-picking":

• Disinformation gets cut out.
• Fact-checking is protected-speech, not immediately-auto-deleted-because-it-harms-profitable-disinformation.
• Ideological-prejudice gets cut out.
• The major racisms: sex/gender racism, skin racism, class racism, & national racism, get stomped.
• Correct & true journalism ( going to require independent ratings for individuals & organizations & for sub-branches-of-organizations ) gets automatically & consistently boosted.

You put those in-place, & MASSIVE improvement is inescapable.

The Problem(tm)??

Big Tech WON'T TOLERATE anything interfering with their highjacking of the world, with their asserting their claim to monarchic/polyarchic world rule.

EVER.

Try linking a Wikipedia article, to fact-check something, on yt..

Autodeleted!

Rabies is their means-of-gaining-possession-of-the-world, & NOTHING can be tolerated to interfere with their rabies/means.

No matter how many humans die, in which circumstances their platforms helped enforce.

For-profit-corporations are psychopaths, by default..

So long as we continue maintaining-otherwise, they continue winning..

until it's too late.

( & we don't get told when it is too late, either: that's movie-fantasy plot-point, not reality )

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WW3 isn't until 2040-ish, sorry:

We've still got the progressively-creating-dictatorship stage, to happen in the US, ( until about 2031-ish )

then there's the carving-up-the-world-into-empires while Trump carves the US up in Confederacy's ideology's image, stage, ( another 7-8y )

THEN, when that's all done, THEN kaboom goes peace from the world, until only 1 faction's left alive, through global-war-of-attrition..

It may finish by the end of this century, may not.

Don't expect more than 100 million left alive, at the end of it, IF the Good Guys win, don't expect ANYbody left alive if they are as "unconscious at the wheel" as the Left has been in the US & Romania, lately.

I bet you an imaginary dime that the real WW3 will be not in this decade.

Bet?

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I disagree with the "at best symbolic"

IF they're done rigorously, they CAN create some serious hurt for the oligarchs in question, it seems..

The problem is that they're usually done haphazardly..

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I disagree with the "it's almost never civilian related casualties" bit, simply because of all the mine-created amputees, throughout the world.

That MUST drive some medical-innovation, even if it isn't flashy.

( it is really sad to be arguing this, btw.

Humankind ought get a life. )

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I remember seeing similar reports, in other news-sources, at the time, BAD racism & prejudice..

These aren't the only evidences that people have seen.

Poland was also apparently very-bad for anti-Black racism, in the news, of that time..

( not pretending that North America's somehow clean or just or right, just .. except for the Deep South, in the US, North America's less aggressive that what was being-made-visible in East Europe, then..

Nothing's going to make racism NOT self-perpetuate, except for "combined arms" dismantling it..

that's always been true.

Northern Ireland, Palestine, Rwanda, multiple angles in Asia, Indigenous people, all kinds of "racisms", all the same ideology/identity root

& the same dismantling-through-shared-great-value-work being the only possible dismantling of it.. )

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I think it's time for the UN to resolve ( they haven't the spine to ) that

• ANY government which exacts tithes/taxes/tribute from a population,
• WITHOUT providing equivalent-benefit,
• THEREFORE is just committing criminal-extortion,
• & therefore isn't legal-government for that population,
• AND if they're also assaulting/home-demolishing, THEN they're terrorist, not merely criminally-extorting & falsely-claiming-representation.

Israel, Russia, China, wouldn't tolerate such a resolution, would they?

The US wouldn't, either ( Puerto Rico's taxed, & subject to military-draft, but isn't permitted to vote, e.g. )..

Ah, but are we not professional shitposters, monsieur??

& through our professionalism, as shitposters, our .. lack of scientific credentials .. can be excused, oui?

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Spamming & self-promotion are 2 separate things you say, but try telling that to Dr. Al Sears, who's a shill..

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Go look-up "paper mill" science..

https://insights.uksg.org/articles/10.1629/uksg.659

This article's existence suggests that Retraction Watch should be checked, as a prerequisite to one's posting anything!

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Call it Ouranos, & commenter-asininity should be reduced.

Explicitly mention in the rules, that if someone finds an item on some not-allowed-source interesting,

then they should go look-for a proper-science article giving the same core-meaning

& that would be acceptable.

There's a principle that the most-famous-convict-in-the-world held-to, that Science is supposed to also hold-to..

"it doesn't matter who says it: if it's True, then it's True, end-of-story."

I've seen "authorities" assert that there is "no scientific evidence" or "no valid evidence" for some supplement, then simply gone on PubMed & found 800-ish peer-reviewed articles on exactly that supplement, so the "authorities" are just pushing ideology/prejudice, since evidence has been contradicting them for years, before they made their "authoritative" declaration..

I'm kinda fed-up with Scientism masquerading & gaslighting as Empiricism, you know?

( & this doesn't even touch the nobody will do the experiment, therefore there's no "evidence" because nobody "can afford" to assert the evidence bullshit..

A South Korean experiment, iirc, years ago, did a single-plutonium-atom-in-each-of-some-mice experiment, letting the mice reproduce, & then cracking whether there was any statistically-significant-cancer-rate-difference in the plutonium-adulterated lineages, vs the others..

& discovered that there is..

But, of course, if THAT were replicated, then .. ALL nuclear-safety-regulations would be trashed, because the multiple-generations-tests are NOT done, because we CAN'T afford to know that!!, right??

Same with the "we don't know what could be causing The Cold Blob(tm) off of Greenland, but we won't include Greenland ice-melt in our climate-models, so therefore there's NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE that that's what it is!!" gaslighting..

NOW they've done that inclusion, & discovered that AMOC began shutting-off around 1950, & this-decade will see about 1,000,000+ fewer cubic km of flow, than the 1940-1950 decade ( Nature Geoscience for that article, it was linked from Earth.com, a few days ago )..

Won't-do-the-experiment is itself pseudoscience!!

Feel free to delete my comment from this discussion, since it contradicts consensus/Scientism's establishment..

Here's the AMOC-is-shutting-down, will be down 33% at 2C, article:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41561-024-01568-1

Here's The Cold Blob whose source hasn't been scientifically established, to use their phrase:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_blob

( seriously: what ELSE could be its source??

Greenland's nearly-6k-cubic-km in the last few years icemelt HAS to go somewhere, right?

Isn't considered-reasoning part of The Scientific Method, anymore?

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Reading the PDF..

The "most preferred leadership behavior" is .. being male?

Uncertainty-avoidance ( that's a Hofstede dimension, why do they seem to be claiming otherwise? ) is 2nd, which explains why ideology/prejudice, Kahneman1-mind, for anybody who has read his "Thinking Fast and Slow", on the 2 mind-systems, is preferred to considered-reasoning!

Damn..

Humankind .. hasn't got a chance in hell, .. of surviving this century's challenges,

has it?

That kind of polarization/programming .. is completely incompatible with species-wide adapting.

Here are some background links, for you people:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofstede%27s_cultural_dimensions_theory#Dimensions_of_national_cultures

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_leadership

I think they really missed a trick, by not looking into whether Kegan4 or Kegan5 is preferred, in leadership, in different cultures ( though Hofstede's Success-orientation, formerly "masculinity", would be a reliable indicator for Kegan4 & against Kegan5 )..

Kegan4's .. bulling-boss mode, it's a stage-of-unconscious-mind-development which is pushing-out-unacceptable-meaning, & its instinct "knows" that validity is zero-sum: anybody else having any validity, that costs one's own ( exclusive ) validity.

Kegan5's .. systems-of-systems mode.

scroll down a bit, from this link, & read the table..

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kegan#The_Evolving_Self

Kegan & Lahey's book "Immunity to Change" is on 3, 4, & 5, & how not getting one's unconscious-mind to change utterly destroys potential, for little reason.

They provide leverages for getting one's unconscious to grow-up, too..

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Oh, this need be added:

Lanier never published in academia, ttbomk, only through her book..

However, Universe couldn't possibly care if a meaning is published outside, or inside, of academia's filter-bubble, crowded as it now is with "paper mills" and their fake-science publications..

Scientific Method is the ONLY test for Truth of something, right?

Lanier's stuff tests-out.

Contempting it, because a particular filter-bubble hasn't "authorized" it to be True in Universe's eyes, is .. cultural chauvanism, & nothing else..

Universe isn't, in any way whatsoever, dependent on academic-filter-bubble for What It Holds To Be True, right?

I've a test of her Tropical culture vs Nordic culture that for me hammers-it-home:

I've spent years as a homeless person, including out in the bush.

WHEN failure to do something oneself WILL terminate one's life in the cold, THEN one gets off one's ass & doesn't rely on "society" to "take care of one", right?

That isn't in Tropical culture, only in cultures where cold threatens individual-survival/viability.

People can debate all they want about whether it's significant, or not, or valid, or not,

but .. go out there & put your life on the line for a few winters & see if it alters your instincts, or not, eh?

I say it does, & that no amount of ideological bullshit can falsify the evidence that direct-experiment produced, in altering me.

People who won't do the experiment say "it isn't proven", & they won't accept the testimony of people who have done the experiment..

Hence my inability to respect ivory-tower "authority" which won't do the experiment, rejects evidence contradicting its filter-bubble, etc..

Do the experiment , that is rule number ZERO, right?

Empiricism!

Lanier's stuff checks-out, through & through, & its not having been published within academia's filter-bubble in no way, whatsoever, negates its validity.

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This seems spot-on.

I do wish, however, that it wasn't only Hofstede's research that was being used as a reference, as Lanier's "Foreign to Familiar" is, while identifying fewer dimensions, every bit as fundamental as Hofstede's "Exploring Culture" book is..

Lanier identifies the Tropical vs Nordic cultural dimension, & also the old-culture vs new-culture dimension,

neither of which Hofstede seems to have acknowledged.

Lanier isn't male, of course, so expecting male-academia to do anything other than ignore her work .. isn't going to accomplish anything, this century, is it?

& as for the people who automatically-contempt automatic-machine-learning, it's a brilliant use of technology:

let the machine identify what the factors are, & which way they're going, in the different cultures.

Think of it as enhanced data-mining, & that's the best idea to know it as, really..

Not even slightly related to the generative-LLMs with their hallucinations, at all.

This article is a treasure: to the one who posted this, https://lemmy.world/u/Joker@sh.itjust.works , Thank You!

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Beautifully incisive.

Thank you!

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Honestly, you are powerless to do anything about them.

Trump promised his followers they wouldn't have to vote anymore, & I expect that to be true.

I don't know if he's got the balls to outright arrest all the elected Democrats, & begin torturing them until someone "confesses" that they were "all" "guilty of treason", then hang them all, to prove his "validity" or "justification"..

but I don't expect there to be more than 100 million left alive on this continent by 2040, after US Civil War part2's finished butchering everyone..

Apparently it was the boomer-males & the latinos who couldn't bear the thought of a woman with authority who gave Trump basis-for-total-dictatorship..

Which proves that unless you keep your already-established people agilely evolving, they ARE GOING TO sink you, for their ego-inertia's protection..

( I read, years ago, in an excellent book named "Corps Business: the 30 MANAGEMENT PRINCIPLES of the US Marines", that the US Marines toss you out if you haven't earned promotion in the last 18-months:

they do not tolerate inertia in their population!

NOW I am better-understanding the cultural-consequence of not-doing-that kind of thing..

Forced-evolution XOR .. the inertia-establishment snuffing the organization/country..

Natural Selection, aka Nature Got There 1st!

Ruthless, truth is.. )

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The real problem is that our own unconscious "normalizes" whatever is established,

including gaslighting.

WHEN gaslighting becomes the frame of reference ..

.. THEN ideological-rabies has the authority to rule the world.

THEREFORE denormalizing gaslighting is a survival-of-any-civil-rights requirement, that modern-world's "journalism" abandoned.

So, if the "journalism" corporations abandoned denormalizing gaslighting, who's left?

https://www.bellingcat.com/ , and .. whom?

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Bhutan's probably the last place on Earth that's similar to the Vajrayana home my Soul remembers, from a previous-incarnation as a Himalayan monk..

( it had multiple mere-animal incarnations, since then,

so nobody go believing I'm any kind of "special" in any way:

Universe is a "churn", & Continuums/Souls just get perpetually recycled within it, until they find the tiny method for getting "out" from the churn:

there's nothing "religious" about it, as Huston Smith's brilliant "World Religions" book's "Buddhism" chapter makes clear..

"self" is just the mind-defect/Soul-defect/Continuum-defect that keeps Continuums trapped/contained, is all..

Dissolve that defect, & the Continuum can dissolve into OceanOfAllAwakeSouls, which others call "G-D".

it's just an endless-stream-of-Universes scale mechanism,

& awareness-processing is its function, allowing ignosis to be "born" into ocean-of-phenomena/Universes,

then "mashing" or "grinding" that ignosis-mind's Continuum/Soul until only gnosis is remaining.. endlessly.. in all Universes.. endlessly.. forever.. )

But..

Bhutan's kind-of a desert, material-culturally & economically..

The worst of "development" pours into the country, through the internet, bars, etc, & EVERYBODY who is ANYbody in the world, has material-things well in excess of what people who remain in Bhutan have.. right?

IF you were young, energetic, seeing with your own eyes that NOTHING is happening in Bhutan, seeing through the intertubes that EXCITING stuff(tm) is happening in other-places, & the only "high paying"

( apparently "high paying",

but actually not-being-paid, because it's all organized-crime/scammery, that pulls people from 1 country to another, for earnings:

the organized-crime keeping the profits, & keeping the foreign-workers economically-enslaved: nobody who suckers their life to them "wins", from what I've read about it. ) jobs are out-of-country..

Would you be able to resist the urge to leave enforced-boredom at national-scale?

Could you?

Economic-trinkets, economic-energy, the "hustle" of big cities, it pulls lives, you know?

Bhutan needed much more economic-development strategy, & instead .. it bet on the "wrong horse", ttbomk..

Their "strategy" didn't keep young people in the country:

so, the gutting of their country happened, instead.

( this aside from the point that they made only-ethnic-Bhutanese citizenship, & much of the population had been Nepali-origin,

so therefore they created the highest-domestic-refugee-rate in the entire world.. )

There's no way to win, if your view of your situation is blinkered/blinded to entire-dimensions-of-meaning,

& ALL of us are blind to something, if not lots-of-somethings..

( this is why collaborative issue-diagrams are sooo spectacularly effective, for solving strategy: ANYone who has an insight, then we all can stand, together, on that-insight's leverage, too, see?

The pattern of insights is worth much more than a mere-addition of so-many insights, you know?

: )

There was only a narrow no-mistakes-path that could win, for Bhutan,

& they wandered from that no-mistakes-path, & .. lost.

BTW, the airportless runway in the East of the country was put there by India, for defending against China..

China encroaches into Bhutan, into northern India, etc..

The deathmatch between China & India's coming, it's just a few years away, still..

Expect it to begin, in earnest, in .. 2032?

Islamism & Hindutva fighting to polarize India as perfectly as possible, before then..

rabies all 'round..

Bhutan's not going to exist, beyond that time, whenever China obliterates it, as it did Tibet..

That too, affects someone's willingness to remain in Bhutan, you know?

Sorry I'm not pouring "cheer" into the world, but .. the butchery that's coming, the rest of this century, is near world-extinguishing.

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There are costs beyond the physical.

I agree with you that intimacy shouldn't be for money.

The sexually-transmitted infections ( I cannot understand how the modern population isn't 50+% infected with life-damaging infections, nowadays, and maybe it is, given how disinformation & "marketing" have completely replaced the value of correct-information that journalism used to have ) seem likely to rule the lives of both porn-industry participants & those who use porn as their frame-of-reference for deciding their own lives.

Getting the torquie out from the sex-work industry, however, de-criminalizing it, getting the pimps & organized-crime out of it, to make it safer for those who ( for whatever reason ) work in it, would require some serious restructuring of our cultures.

You've read that in other apes sex is traded by females for nutrition?

Male hoarding of rights/food/power/safety, making female trading of their intimacy for a portion of what the males had possessed as their "rightful exclusive possession", extends well beyond humans.

The thing is, we're supposed to be upright, not rationalizing pack-behavior, but instead dismantling it from us, making us all we can be.

That didn't happen, in the last few millenia.

It's possible that humankind will earn it, now ( The Great Filter, if survived, will produce this result, in about a century ).

but the prejudice is sooo deep..

You know that there is a story in the Abrahamic religions' Book of Genesis, about woman eating of "the fruit of the Knowledge of Good & Evil", which means MORALITY?

& sharing this eating with man?

Wasp-researchers in Panama ( from Exeter & Bristol universities ) discovered that altruism is generalized-mothering, among wasps.

Buddha Gautama stated that this is the case, 25 consecutive centuries ago: altruism is generalized mothering. The Buddhist phrase "all our kind mothers", in referring to ALL other continuums/souls, is rooted in this.

That the Abrahamic-religion men twisted a statement in their own scripture, in order to change it from meaning that women/mothers ate of morality, & shared it with men,

TO women committed the "original sin", & it cannot ever be revoked, & punishing/abusing women is now inherently-valid..

& holding that gaslighting for millenia..

Do you have any idea how fundamental the sex-racism is, in our religions & laws?

What culture/country holds that raising children is real economically-required-and-valid work?

Here in North America, that's a sick joke: raising children is .. treated as parasitism.

The male apes who hoard wealth, forcing female apes into prostitution for sustinance..

There's waaay too much of that, in our cultures.

Remove the need,.

That must come 1st.

Letting people do that if they want to, but cut criminality out from it, completely: criminalize pimping, human-trafficking, certainly, hard-line, but decriminalize sex-work that doesn't harm anybody.

( no protection against infections is harming people: protection ought be legislated, same as in any hazardous work )

do everything one can to prevent people younger than 21yo from doing it ( because brains aren't fully-developed until about then, which is the same reason that setting the legal-drinking-age to 21yo so significantly reduces deaths on the roads: younger people don't consider "no" to be as meaningful as people with older brains do ).

Put care in place for people who've been "turned into commodities" through abusive relationships, to get them out from that devaluation, instead of just letting the industry use their lives, & pretend that that's OK..

etc..

Really, living-wage legislation would cut into the "need" for sex-work, significantly.

Oh, & I've read that when sex-work is suppressed, rapes & domestic-violence both go up, so there's some displacement going on, between the categories, that way..

It isn't a simple thing, & I wish "commerce" & intimacy were so completely distinct that nobody would ever consider a Venn diagram showing intersection of the 2 categories, but .. the actual world doesn't work right..

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Yeah:

I remember the polls were reporting that after the 1st few poll-stations reported, then suddenly ALL the poll-stations were reporting that 2/3rds of the votes were for the guy who won, & there was no variation anymore.

You can't get more fake than that.

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