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I'm Canuck, so this issue is of central concern for us, ongoingly..

The reason we're able to spend so-little on military, per GDP,

is because of the excessive expenditure by the US.

Pretending that these expenditures are "independent" of the US's expenditure, is intellectually-dishonest.

I'm not saying that was your intent, I'm saying that's what the result misrepresentation is..

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The person you're arguing-against has a valid point..

https://www.npr.org/2021/12/25/1067966116/u-s-air-strikes-have-killed-thousands-of-civilians-nyt-magazine-investigation-fi

& that is just 1 source I was able to find in mere-seconds, as this issue has had entire books written on it.

BOTH sides commit imperialist narcissist machiavellian psychopathic nihilistic sadistic shit, while gaslighting the entire-world about it.

The difference is a difference of degree, not a "1 does it, the other doesn't do it" difference,

& that has been true for .. the last 8+ decades?

This is actually a fundamental problem with "politics":

IF a particular machiavellian-operation is established,

AND a "new government" is elected,

Do you try resetting everything, in order to align with the temporarily-in-power new-electorate?

XOR do you just keep everything underhanded going as S.O.P, while letting the "politicians" play in the polls?

( this is intentionally a false-dichotomy: the right-answer is somewhere between, & keeps dynamically changing, as the country's morality devolves/evolves )

Without periodic-review, there won't ever be any accountability, & evil can just continue growing, endlessly, until the "deep state" really is the primary enemy of the country's civil-rights..

With periodic-review, however, then .. done by whom?

when?

At what intervals?

With what authority?

etc.

Therefore, the default is for evil to just continue growing..

As a collector-of-knowledge told me, years ago, the more he understood what had actually happened in the US molesting Nicaragua, via the CIA, & drug-cartels, etc..

the more he couldn't figure-out who the bad-guys were supposed to be.

That is normal.

Spook stuff does everything it can to eradicate true-good & true-evil from all frames-of-reference!

that is by-design.

which is what makes it & some-people so .. utterly-incompatible.

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Oversimplification:

Actually, it's both, at different times, in different places, sure, but it isn't just-1 or just-the-other.

Never has been.

Politics has ALWAYS been this way, through millenia.

Read Sunzi ( formerly Sun Tzu, aka Master Sun ), about how the supreme general never has to get into battle,

simply because the entire region's too busy prospering, for anybody to be digging-into battle..

As machiavellian as some of that book is, that final principle's right right right.

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Sorry: I'd mistaken you for a person using considered-reasoning.

Ideology doesn't reason.

Its symbols are comforting substitutes for reason, & they're enough, for it, right?

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"people take anti-cancer drugs because they want war-with-cancer:

simply by stopping all war-with-cancer, & stopping all the anti-cancer-drugs,

then everybody won't having malignant-tumors killing them!"

False reasoning.

WHEN there are truly-rabid people with armies,

THEN defense is a SANE investment, if the truly-rabid could affect one's country's life.

Lethal-self-defense is exercised within your body by your own immune-system, all the time.

Whatever health you've got, it's because of that!

Countries are the same as individual-organisms, in terms of being killable-by-pathogens & killable-by-cancer.

Destroy both, & live healthy.

You CANNOT give your body to pathogens/cancer & be healthy: that's just delusion.

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terabits per second, sustained..

Yikes!

True, except that you're making the same mistake I've been making, since Trump 1st ran for President, years ago:

getting the speed wrong..

It's damn glacial, compared with individual-life..

He'll keep escalating until about 2031, when finally he can do ANYthing he wants, human-sacrifice included ( as the Aztecs, the Maya, & the Toltecs did, before him, in the Americas.. just different in style )

Once 2032 rolls around, he should be able to go total-Confederate-pogrom against all who were civil-rights oriented, in the US..

& that'll take him another 7-8y to completely-destroy the country..

Maybe 100-million will survive to 2040?

it looks to me, now, like that's the speed & the scale..

Don't take my word for anything, though: wait & see!

Empiricism!

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They "elected" Putin.

There is a difference..

You know how dictatorship's "elections" work, don't you?

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What a helpful comment.

Thank you!

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I've read that Russian history's refrain literally is..

".. and then it got worse."

I've read variants of that from many sources.

Russia's not had good government in .. millenia, apparently.

lmao..

Russia's methodology is waaay insaner than we Westerners would imagine..

The ONLY reason that nukes haven't been used against Ukraina is because .. lower-down officers haven't authorized it.

They've got a bizarre system whereby there's a "secrets officer" in every .. platoon is it? .. to make-certain that EVERYbody in their military is kept in the dark, throughout the entire hierarchy,

AND THEN they have it so that the lower-downs decide whether nukes are used..

Sargeants? lower?

So, they make absolutely certain that the people making such decisions cannot-possibly have the information they need.

Russian military doctrine.

WE OWE THE RUSSIAN OFFICERS WHO HAVE REFUSED TO USE NUKES, MANY OF OUR LIVES, now!

Same as when that Russian nuke-sub had a malfunction, & a Russian officer refused to contribute to nuke-everything, so we owe HIM our lives, too!

Just because we're saner .. doesn't mean that our-method is somehow normal among their military..

& saner is a relative thing, right?

I wonder what percentage of humankind will look back, in 16 years, wondering how we could have been complaining about our condition now, when it all went to hell, then ( I expect WW3 to go completely-bonkers in about 2040, but non-nuke, as I expect the trashing of GPS++ to happen, before then: Kessler Syndrome should render ICBMs unusable, along with all satnav )

You're suggesting that their Russian-backed Brexit proves they're subtly-superior in such capability?

Because Assad's an ethnic-minority, he either has to genocide the entire country, XOR if he fails, then his life, itself, is hosed, from what I've read..

He CANNOT back-off & live.

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https://investingnews.com/brics-currency/

They're VERY big on breaking the West's hegemony..

Due to their grass-roots pragmatism ( China's "Belt & Road" initiative, being an example of how to surrepticiously-own countries )

they may well succeed, sufficiently..

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Here is a listing of the positions of the different parties, on the different major-issues..

Since I've no idea who's far-right vs far-left, or where these issues are in the French people's opinion, therefore I'm culturally-blind in seeing this,

like being colorblind while looking at a Durer painting..

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2024/06/18/french-elections-what-we-know-about-the-policy-platforms_6675101_8.html

Healthcare isn't even mentioned, in that page, unfortunately..

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Idaho

Replace "religion" with "ideology/prejudice" & see the view even more clearly..

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The high housing prices are directly-produced by "property investment" which raises residential-housing-costs for sake of passive profit.

Anybody who pretends that that doesn't alter the market is gaslighting or incompetent: pick one.

Cripes, even seeing slumlord charging $$ for a few square-feet beneath a staircase, & that being allowed by the municipality, because people are sooo desparate for housing of ANY kind, thanks to the phony/jacked market..

"priorities", that's called, eh?

( the whole "you can't be devout to 2, opposite, G-D's, simultaneously" principle is true:

Either worship psychopathic-parasitism, XOR put living-worth above it honestly,

but don't "sit on your hands" so you can "do both": you aren't doing both, "representative" government.

Governments representing psychopathic-parasitism .. speaks kinda loudly, nowadays, throughout the world, doesn't it? )

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https://www.sipri.org/sites/default/files/2024-11/fs_2412_top_100_2023_0.pdf

that has some interesting points in it..

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The True Problem, is that an actual-safe-space is required, for kids,

& that costs investment to produce, & to maintain.

We pay for kindergarten & schools to be safe-spaces, don't we?

Children's forming brains require healthy place, right?

Same is required for internet, for them.

So, a "walled garden" with wikipedia ( not the gore-centered stuff, & there seems to be some of that on there ), & TVTropes,

etc, is required for them to develop their minds healthy,

but the only "successful" walled-gardens were made with machiavellian intent, thus-far..

Apple's walled-garden, Microsoft's, AOL's, Google's, etc..

Nobody's done a not-for-profit edition for humanitarian reasons..

Big Tech'd sabotage it any way they could, in order to "prove" it "doesn't work"

( it'll never be seen in Google News, Facebook may well disappear all references to it, Apple wouldn't permit it on their platform's App Store, etc.. )

Exterminating-alternative is required when the stakes are world-possession, right?

NO competitor allowed, right??

Nobody's got the spine to create the required walled-garden which simultaneously gives children

• access to meaningful friends
• lots of learning opportunities & learning-means
• gamefied learning, like projects-done-together on interesting-to-them subjects, with real accomplishings, like Science Fairs can be, irl
• systematic stomping of abuse, predators, bullying, etc..
• systematic training them in sane privacy-habits, device-health habits ( update your apps weekly! Reboot your device weekly! Use antivirus! )
• systematically training all children in critical-thinking, dismantling ideology-programming as completely as possible, from the next-generation

etc.

& if anybody did have the spine, then it'd be force-disallowed by Big Tech.

Humankind waited too long to care, & now the bad-guys own the whole "game", it looks like, to me..

Human children never will know what honest, proper, supportive systematic-development through interesting challenges, & safe growing-up can be, because our-generations wouldn't do what was required, when we had leverage to be able to do it.

"fighting over crumbs" is all that's left, it looks like..

( lobbied "representatives" wouldn't allow world-integrity to violate their owners' interests, either, obviously.. )

Sorry for my bitterness, but I'm old.

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