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  • A spoiler is something that only exists in the mind of Liberals

    Dude, I already showed it to you.

     
            Election report for election "Plurality 2 Candidates"
        Total people: 1047
        11% of people supported the winner.
    
        Kruger - 112 votes - WINNER
        Sahl - 111 votes
    
    
    
      

     
            Election report for election "Plurality 3 Candidates"
        Total people: 1047
        10% of people supported the winner.
    
        Sahl - 109 votes - WINNER
        Kruger - 93 votes
        Maikol - 91 votes
    
    
      

    The overlap of two circles means there will be an area shared in between. That's the math, you can't get around that.

  • Any of the following:

    • Campaigns are each given X million for their campaign as public funding if they qualify for the ballot. Say with three qualifying candidates, the DNC, RNC, and the greens each get 10m, use it wisely.
    • Campaigns work based on a shared pool of funds. If candidate A raises X funding, all candidates then recieve X/num candidates funding that they are permitted to spend.
    • No funding is allowed to be spent at all, for any candidate. Candidates can only ever explain their policy on information cards presented at the ballot, on public posts on the internet, press interviews, at debates, etc.

    I'm sure there are other ways. But the point is, no candidate should have a monetary advantage over the other. In an actual democracy, all ideas and therefore candidates should be given equal thought, and therefore funding. Whether it be $0 or $100 billion, all campaigns should be equally funded/defunded.

  • youre arguing they shouldnt be allowed to run because theyll spoil the party that benefits

    No I'm not. I'm saying it is almost always a waste of a vote to give them your vote. And anybody running as a 3rd party candidate should do so strategically, in places where there is actually a chance to win without causing ideologically furthest opponents from winning.

    Huge swaths of races in the U.S. go unopposed, largely at the local level. Third parties could easily and cheaply target those races, but they don't.

  • You vote exclusively for candidates that actively support and benefit from first past the post

    That isn't true, and I just told you. This sort of change happens at the local level, at the lower ranks of government.

    The president is not the only elected position in government.

    and are fighting against a candidate that actively supports getting rid of it.

    Not really. Stein is probably barely even on the Harris campaign's radar. The actual, real fight is against Trump.

    You cant claim to want to get rid of it

    Sure I can, just watch me:

    I want to get rid of the spoiler effect, and will help to do so by voting for candidates at the local level who support better voting methods, when such candidates are available.

  • Another way to think about it, at some point even at McDonald's you'd get fired for poor hygiene if you constantly showed up to work smelling awful. That standard should especially apply to a diplomatic role in government.

    But yeah, this is bottom tier reason not to elect him.

  • No, see jill stein wants to get rid of first past the post.

    And I want to be able to jump over entire buildings with a single bound, and shoot lasers out of my eyes.

    Talk is cheap when you've lost every single presidential election you've entered, especially losing so bad as to never get any electoral college nominations.

    You are explicitly fighting to keep it.

    No, I vote in the primaries at every chance to get as left of a candidate nominated as possible. The way to move forward is to take over the DNC. That starts at the ground level.

    Just going for the presidency is a failed strategy. So all we can do at this time is harm reduction at that level.